White cop beats pregnant Black woman in Rochester, NY (Video)

[Box Cutta]

Let's review the timeline of events:

1. The police are called because neighbors were upset about a disturbance. Cool.

In a white neighborhood these are handled in the "good old boy" way....just let neighbors work it out, cops play mediator.

Blacks involved? Everything changes. Instant back-up in a black neighborhood, and SOMEONE is getting arrested.

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/201...whites-though-texas-is-below-us-average.html/

The ACLU released a report today finding that blacks are more likely to be arrested than whites for marijuana possession. Says the report, in 2010, at least, “a Black person was 3.73 times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than a white person — a disparity that increased 32.7% between 2001 and 2010.” This, even though the report also insists blacks and white smoke marijuana “at similar rates.”

In other words, even petty issues must involve arrest and convictions when blacks are involved. Both police officers & state prosecutors have heavy discretion. They never have to arrest or prosecute anyone. They never have to "let it slide". But since we are black, you can bet your ass that we are likely to be given less leeway.

We are seen as ultra-dangerous. This is on top of general-racism and pigs just enjoying dominating blacks. This is on top of not being seen as "one of the boys" and whites being unable to emphasize on a human level with black people (This last point is why I was frustrated with Type Username Here's reliance on a "bigger picture", it would be great to look at these instances on some sort of universal level but it's not real. We are barely viewed as the same species by these people, how can our plight be viewed through the lens of humanity as a whole when the pathology behind cynicism towards us comes from a completely different and MUCH darker place?)

2.Police arrive and for whatever reason decide to put one or both of these individuals under arrest for disturbing the peace. Contrary to popular Coli belief, this is where one complies peacefully with the officers. At the very least, false charges can be fought in court and perhaps even money could be had.

"For whatever reason" indeed.

And don't try and spin this as some economic benefit. Nobody is making money by the police harassing blacks EXCEPT for the people in the justice system that greatly benefit from having a fresh line-up of new victims.

3. Pregnant woman tries to pepper spray cop. WRONG!!! NOPE!!! WRONG COURSE OF ACTION.

Pig's story. Victims mother said that this was bullshyt and I believe her. These pigs are the same ones that mistake a wallet for a revolver when a black person is involved. BTW, pigs said she "threatened" to pepper spray them...we are dealing in semantics here, and unless she had pepper spray pointed at them I highly doubt it went down the way they are implying it did. Either way, it's not on video.

4. Pregnant woman tries to resist arrest. WRONG AGAIN!!! FAIL!!!

"Resisting Arrest" and "Evading Police" are amongst two of the biggest loads of bull in our justice system. They are usually used as loaded charges...free "extra time" from the justice system's perspective. Damn near anything can be construed as "resisting" when you consider that the charge can result from either physical movement or people saying something that can be construed as "resisting". This is on top of the general discretion that pigs are given. I know, first hand, bruthas that have been charged with "resisting arrest" over natural reflexes, yanks and shrugs in fear of being slapped around...dudes who clearly had no intention of trying to fukking run away from police officers. It's just another fukked up part of our laws.

This is from wikipedia :

• fleeing a police officer while being arrested
• threatening a police officer with physical violence while being arrested
• physically struggling to get out from being restrained (handcuffed or put into the police vehicle)
• attacking a police officer while being arrested
• providing an officer with false identification (either verbally or by presentation of a false official document, i.e. a fake ID)

I'm not going to look up the NY statute on resisting arrest. But look at the language used here. You can already see elements that suggest a form of opinion. Think a bit deeper, and you can also come up with many ways in which a cop could easily goad someone into "resisting" them.

In most states, you can be charged with JUST resisting an arrest. So if a cop comes up to you, punches you in the face and says that you are being arrested for, I dunno, stealing a space shuttle...if you try to "resist" this unlawful arrest, you can still be charged with that crime. It's police state bullshyt.

 

[CASHAPP]

And that's how blacks were kept into slavery for 100's of years...

Excellent point!

I'm repeating myself alot by mentioning the book in every thread in Higher Learning but this is one of the VERY things Michelle Alexander discussed in "The New Jim Crow"

At one point towards the end of the book she talks about one of the problems in our community why the problem persisted for so long was that during the Reconstruction era and the Civil Rights movement, in both cases there were middle class and upper class Blacks who were stubborn about not standing up for their fellow people. Like how some of them were annoyed and irked by the fact that "Our Negro community" is getting too "rebellious" by doing things like making a big uproar and news event over Rosa Parks getting arrested.....

They would say things like "If they keep this up we are gonna lose the little rights we do have" and also "I don't think Blacks are ready yet to get rights in America" and most popular "We should just keep being hardworking in our community and just deal with the Jim Crow laws".

She also mentioned how Booker T Washington was making arguments like these....

But people from that era who were making c00nish statements like those if you were to talk to them about it they would be the type to act like they were so supportive of their Brothers and Sisters fighting.

This is the same EXACT mindset that is allowing the destructive mass incarceration/drug war to proliferate in our community.

The more things change....the more they stay the same

 

[ExodusNirvana]

In a white neighborhood these are handled in the "good old boy" way....just let neighbors work it out, cops play mediator.

Blacks involved? Everything changes. Instant back-up in a black neighborhood, and SOMEONE is getting arrested.

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/201...whites-though-texas-is-below-us-average.html/



In other words, even petty issues must involve arrest and convictions when blacks are involved. Both police officers & state prosecutors have heavy discretion. They never have to arrest or prosecute anyone. They never have to "let it slide". But since we are black, you can bet your ass that we are likely to be given less leeway.

We are seen as ultra-dangerous. This is on top of general-racism and pigs just enjoying dominating blacks. This is on top of not being seen as "one of the boys" and whites being unable to emphasize on a human level with black people (This last point is why I was frustrated with Type Username Here's reliance on a "bigger picture", it would be great to look at these instances on some sort of universal level but it's not real. We are barely viewed as the same species by these people, how can our plight be viewed through the lens of humanity as a whole when the pathology behind cynicism towards us comes from a completely different and MUCH darker place?)



"For whatever reason" indeed.

And don't try and spin this as some economic benefit. Nobody is making money by the police harassing blacks EXCEPT for the people in the justice system that greatly benefit from having a fresh line-up of new victims.



Pig's story. Victims mother said that this was bullshyt and I believe her. These pigs are the same ones that mistake a wallet for a revolver when a black person is involved. BTW, pigs said she "threatened" to pepper spray them...we are dealing in semantics here, and unless she had pepper spray pointed at them I highly doubt it went down the way they are implying it did. Either way, it's not on video.



"Resisting Arrest" and "Evading Police" are amongst two of the biggest loads of bull in our justice system. They are usually used as loaded charges...free "extra time" from the justice system's perspective. Damn near anything can be construed as "resisting" when you consider that the charge can result from either physical movement or people saying something that can be construed as "resisting". This is on top of the general discretion that pigs are given. I know, first hand, bruthas that have been charged with "resisting arrest" over natural reflexes, yanks and shrugs in fear of being slapped around...dudes who clearly had no intention of trying to fukking run away from police officers. It's just another fukked up part of our laws.

This is from wikipedia :
I'm not going to look up the NY statute on resisting arrest. But look at the language used here. You can already see elements that suggest a form of opinion. Think a bit deeper, and you can also come up with many ways in which a cop could easily goad someone into "resisting" them.

In most states, you can be charged with JUST resisting an arrest. So if a cop comes up to you, punches you in the face and says that you are being arrested for, I dunno, stealing a space shuttle...if you try to "resist" this unlawful arrest, you can still be charged with that crime. It's police state bullshyt.

That's a long post filled with extra information that has little or nothing to do with the events that occurred.

If the cops show up to your door because of a disturbance, you comply with their requests, and if you are placed under arrest, you comply, you don't resist, you don't attempt or even SUGGEST to pepper spray the officers, and you don't attempt to prove that it took 3 officers to take you down if you're 16 years old.

That's what happened here.

The officer should not have punched her in the head or taken her down. No one is denying that. But had they complied with the officers request PRIOR to that, none of this would have occurred.

There are plenty of cases of police brutality, we don't need to use this one as an example of the police taking advantage of blacks when clearly if they had complied, it would not have escalated.

 

[Type Username Here]

@Type Username Here , since you've unintentionally (Or intentionally? I dunno) brought a bit of philosophy to the thread, I have to say...My own personal beliefs tend to yoyo between some ultra, "politically correct" (For lack of a better term), progressive thought...to more innate, instinctual views on the world. Something like sets off the "innate" flags immediately.

shyt like this, and the reactions to it, have me feeling extremely demoralized about the future of my people in this country. Maybe we just *deserve* to be second class citizens. Maybe it really is just "survival of the fittest" and we truly aren't fit to rise to our potential. Said it before and I'll say it again, I fear we are a lost cause. We've been losing this war for centuries, and even today, we can't pull together on something as (In my eyes) simple as standing by our women, no matter what their social status, weight, accent, etc is.

Whites are 60 percent of the country and take what they want, when they want. They have their shyt together and they don't let petty ethical questions stop them from maintaining control. The Jews have mastered this as well, and Hispanics are slowly but surely using numbers, a connection based on the Spanish language, and a little bit of race-as-nation thought to build as well.

This has been random as shyt, whatever, I just wanted to get it off my chest as I didn't get a chance to in the last post.

1) It appears you made a mistake thinking that I in anyway support this criminal behavior by the police. If you pay attention around these parts I'm one of a few posters who constantly is against and vocal police abuses, regardless of who the intended victims are. I have also acknowledge the undeniable fact that the people who suffer the most from this criminal behavior of law enforcement are black Americans. So I have no idea where the fukk you got that from

2) I'm bringing up history because in my opinion, this IS a matter of class struggle. In countries that have had homogenous populations and currently do, there are still issues like the video you presented. Using basic logic, this implies to me that the problem can't be simply written off easily.

3) I think you are outraged, and should be outraged. The disproportionate numbers of minorities facing these abuses are extremely high and should continue to be addressed for all different perspectives. I'm merely suggesting that if you think these things wouldn't happen if everyone in this country was white, then I don't know what to say. I guess we are trying to attack the same behavior, but we differ significantly on what the root cause is.

 

[Blackking]

Let's review the timeline of events:

1. The police are called because neighbors were upset about a disturbance. Cool.

2.Police arrive and for whatever reason decide to put one or both of these individuals under arrest for disturbing the peace. Contrary to popular Coli belief, this is where one complies peacefully with the officers. At the very least, false charges can be fought in court and perhaps even money could be had.

3. Pregnant woman tries to pepper spray cop. WRONG!!! NOPE!!! WRONG COURSE OF ACTION.

4. Pregnant woman tries to resist arrest. WRONG AGAIN!!! FAIL!!!

5. 16 Year Old sees this as his queue to ALSO resist arrest. WRONG!!!! FAIL!!!


So yes, as you can see, even before we get to the point where excessive force is used, we have knuckleheads disobeying commands from officers of the law.

If I'm incorrect on any facts up to that point please feel free, but what it seems like is that these two people instigated a situation that did not need to be taken to that point.

No matter what you feel about cops, whites, etc., if an officer of the law is attempting to put you under arrest, YOU COMPLY. You don't resist arrest, then when the officer escalates force, you resist some more and complain that you're pregnant.

i agree..... she was wrong.. but also the cop could have done better.


ultimately though- we need to make sure we do better because mistakes like this hurt overall perceptions. I'm black, but if I was that cop, I would have man handled that hoe if she sprayed me in the face (without hitting her head). Also, I would have fukked up that boy, cuz the boy looks like a man and could knock me out if I let him. Our internal issues are all over this story and it's gross. bish looking like that at 21; her and her brother acting like ignoramus muthfucas. We can't really rush to defend suspect BS because that weakens the argument about all the gross real shyt that occurs.

 

[CASHAPP]

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/cop-...naked-body-claim-alleges.148288/#post-5485922

We need a COP/PIG unappreciation thread on the coli

 

[Mr. 1nighter]

black people got to start eating better. it's getting out of hand.