Which historical figures made you pause when you found out they had black ancestry?

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I highly highly recommend y'all check out all this guys videos. Very very thorough and insightful.

 

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Babe Ruth

I 100% believe this.

 

[CW_1991]

I 100% believe this.

I heard he used to stay getting in fights because a bunch of cacs would insult and tease him about his black roots.

 

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We are the original people of this planet

 

[The Plug]

NGL, must've been weird as fukk to be the only white person in a random racist European country. Don't even have phones to call your relatives.

 

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I heard he used to stay getting in fights because a bunch of cacs would insult and tease him about his black roots.

Possibly im only speculating but I have never seen another white man with his features but I have seen plenty of black people

 

[Low End Derrick]

Cheddar Man; One of the first people to inhabit the British Isles

 

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Alexander Dumas(I was young)
to think he technically created one of the best franchises on the planet and inspired many
yes the 3 musketeers is a franchise. how many dollars has it provided studios

 

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Alvah Roebuck one of the founders of the Sears & Roebuck company.

Abraham Lincoln definitely had black ancestry through his mother Nancy Hanks (distant cousin of actor Tom Hanks as well)

I know someone that is a descendant of Lincoln's barber who was black. They have collected his old notes and in one of his notes he describes Lincoln as having African ancestry.

 

[Swagnificent]

There’s zero proof that Queen Charlotte and Edgar hoover had black ancestory. And Moroccan berbers aren’t black. Y’all need to stop this shyt

Have you ever been to Morocco? There are still loads of black Berbers to this day. In fact, I remember when I met this light skin black girl with a head scarf on in New Jersey a number of years back. Thought she was just a black American convert to Islam. I was surprised when I learned she was from Morocco.

Also you gotta realize 1.25 million European slaves were imported into North Africa by the Moors in the last 1000 years. That's more slaves than were imported into the United States. Those European slaves changed the phenotype of the region. Especially along the northern coast. North Africans become blacker the deeper you go into the Sahara Desert.

WHITE Slaves and BLACK Masters....the untold history of North Africa

This is one of the most hidden parts of history that nobody wants to talk about. From the year 1500-1800 there was a major slave trade that happened along the Mediterranean Sea. 1.25 million white slaves were taken from Europe to North Africa by a group of black men called the Moors. Most of...

www.thecoli.com

 

[Swagnificent]

What black branch of the Portuguese royal family?


Yalll need to stop trying to force black people into European families when there ain’t any. Black people had our own royalties in our own countries.

The Moors ruled the Iberian Peninsula for 700 years dumbass. That included Portugal. But lemme guess you're gonna claim next the Moors weren't black despite every European source from that era saying they were.

 

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Jackie O if you believe the rumors of her Ancestry

John Van Surly DeGrasse,
c. 1863

John van Salee de Grasse - Wikipedia

Black ancestor to the Kennedy's

The Van Salee Family

America's Van Salees Anthony and Abraham van Salee were the ancestors of the Vanderbilts, the Whitneys, Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis and Humphrey Bogart.

They were among the earliest arrivals to 17th century New Amsterdam. In a number of documents dating back to this period, they are both described as "mulatto". From what scholars have been able to piece together about their background, they appear to have been the sons of a Dutch seafarer by the name of Jan Jansen who had "turned Turk" and become an admiral in the Moroccan navy. America's Van Salees With the Port of Salee as the base from which it harried European shipping, references to the fleet he commanded are salted away in the old English sea shanties that are still sung about the Salee Rovers. The mother of his two sons was probably a concubine he had while trading in this part of the world before his conversion to Islam.

As a result of the anti-social behaviour of his white wife, Anthony van Salee was induced to leave the city precincts of lower Manhattan and move across the river, thus becoming the first settler of Brooklyn. Since Coney Island abutted his property, it was, until sometime in the last century, also referred to as "Turk's Island"; the word, "Turk", being a designation of his which the records used interchangeably with, "mulatto". According to the documentation that people like Professor Leo Hershkowitz of Queens University have sifted through, it would seem that Anthony van Salee never converted to Christianity. His Koran, in fact, was in a descendant's possession until about fifty years ago when, ignorant of its relevance to his family's history, he offered it for sale at auction.

The Van Salee history also includes a more contemporary black collateral branch in the U.S. Anthony's brother Abraham fathered an illegitimate son with an unknown black woman. The son became the progenitor of this side of the family. Although having to face constraints that their "white" cousins could at best only imagine, two of these van Salees nevertheless left their mark in the annals of African American history.

America's Van Salees Dr. John van Salee De Grasse, born in 1825, was the first of his race to be formally educated as a doctor. A member of the Medical Society of Massachusetts, he also served as surgeon to the celebrated 54th Regiment during the Civil War. His sister, Serena, married George Downing who was not only an enormously successful black restauranteur both in New York City and in Newport, RI, but a man who used his wealth and connections with the East Coast's most powerful white families to effect social change for his people. Because of his organization and his own contribution to the purchase of Truro Park in Newport, one of the streets bordering it still bears his name. Interestingly enough, this genealogy was done as part of an ongoing study of the Ramopo in Tappan, NY, one of those red, white and black groups sociologists and ethnographers are now working on and which in academese are referred to as "tri racial isolates". It is because of what advantages their Indian heritage (no matter how discernably negroid they were) legally and officially provided them that the opportunity for "passing" in these groups was not only a more ambiguous political or moral decision but, comparatively, a more easily documentable one as well.

America's Van Salees Considering how important a role John Hammond of Columbia Records played in the establishment of the black music industry, it would certainly be worth exploring the possible influence his van Salee ancestry might have had on his career. Back then, there would have been no option possible for publicly declaring himself black according to the "one drop" racial code that was the law in most states until the Johnson administration. With a Vanderbilt for a mother, his iconographical value to the white majority was so important that had he dared to tamper with it, the KKK or some such group would most probably have made him pay the ultimate price for having desecrated his and the prestige of his relatives who had, after all, fairly well succeeded in making themselves the equivalent of this country's royal family. Hammond died a few years ago but since his son, following in his father's footsteps, has become a recognized exponent of R&B his could prove to be a very important interview for us.

Jackie Kennedy Onassis
Either Professor Hershkowitz, or Tim Beard, former head of the Genealogical Department of the New York Public Library related this incident regarding van Salee genealogy. At the time the Kennedy administration began implementing its civil rights agenda, the New York Genealogical and Historical Society approached Mrs. Kennedy hoping to discuss the opportunity her African ancestry, through the Van Salees, could have in possibly assisting her husband to realize his social goals regarding race relations. Mrs. Kennedy insisted on referring to the van Salees as 'Jewish,' and the New York Genealogical Society did not push the subject further.

Van Salees | FRONTLINE | PBS

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[Fill Collins]

The Bogdanoff twins

Spoiler: the twins

Their grandfather was Roland Hayes, one of the earliest recorded Black singers

Their grandmother was some minor noblewoman from the Czech Republic who was already married

Their ol girl is on the right

Nicole Richie.

 

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Cameron Boyce (R.I.P.)
Will Smith

 

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Babe Ruth

This would literally kill white men over 70