which athlete could have dominated another sport just like their own?

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well, i believe these types of topics are always a matter of opinion - that's why i try to make sure and qualify my answer, such as saying so-and-so is 'one of the best,' or one of the greatest, etc.

you go ahead and objectively rank one all-time great over another all-time great especially in different eras and feel it's a matter of fact...

and i'll treat these things subjectively and know it's only a matter of opinion.

While I agree with this in general, the exception for me is the segregation line. It's hard to compare Wilt to Shaq but in Jim Thorpe's case, the best athlete's in the world weren't allowed to play. That's more than just a generation gap IMO.

Jim Thorpe was great at what he did but IMO it really can't even be proven that he was one of the 100 best athletes of his own time. :yeshrug:
 
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While I agree with this in general, the exception for me is the segregation line. It's hard to compare Wilt to Shaq but in Jim Thorpe's case, the best athlete's in the world weren't allowed to play. That's more than just a generation gap IMO.

Jim Thorpe was great at what he did but IMO it really can't even be proven that he was one of the 100 best athletes of his own time. :yeshrug:

Also well stated
 

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Wilt Chamberlain - Professional Football Wide Receiver ... clocked a 4.6 40 in his barefeet @ 7-1 n 290lbs

Stunned legendary coach Hank Stram (was in the middle of winnin multiple championships wit Kansas City Chiefs at the time) and Stram flat out stated crystal clear that Wilt would be unstoppable... the greatest in the world at the WR position.

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:damn:
 

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Bron is so physically gifted that he could of dominated football
 
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While I agree with this in general, the exception for me is the segregation line. It's hard to compare Wilt to Shaq but in Jim Thorpe's case, the best athlete's in the world weren't allowed to play. That's more than just a generation gap IMO.

Jim Thorpe was great at what he did but IMO it really can't even be proven that he was one of the 100 best athletes of his own time. :yeshrug:

i understand what you're saying and i don't necessarily disagree - i do agree with your points somewhat.

on the other hand, i feel better taking into account what has actually happened and consider events that actually took place - athletic accomplishments that were actually achieved.

this is already a hypothetical, but going into further territory of 'what-if's' makes the discussion almost pointless.
 

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i understand what you're saying and i don't necessarily disagree - i do agree with your points somewhat.

on the other hand, i feel better taking into account what has actually happened and consider events that actually took place - athletic accomplishments that were actually achieved.

this is already a hypothetical, but going into further territory of 'what-if's' makes the discussion almost pointless.

That's why I see pre-integration and post-integration and I never compare those 2 generations. :jawalrus:
 
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that's one way to deal with it, i suppose.

how do you deal with athletes from "3rd world" countries compared to athletes from "developed" nations?

or athletes from nations that have been in constant war for decades relative to athletes that have been in peace, able to grow, flourish and compete?
 

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Lets not forget that Wilt was considering giving Ali the beats legendary... Someone link the talk show. My old ass father thinks Wilt would have been a better match for Ali than some of the dudes he faced in his prime.
 

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that's one way to deal with it, i suppose.

how do you deal with athletes from "3rd world" countries compared to athletes from "developed" nations?

or athletes from nations that have been in constant war for decades relative to athletes that have been in peace, able to grow, flourish and compete?

That's completely different though. We're talking about a large group of athletic individuals in this country who were not allowed to compete simply based on the color of their skin.

Third world countries may lack facilities, true. But that has more to do with player development. I'm talking about an entire race of people primed and ready to go compete only to be stopped at the door. The only thing they lacked was a green light.

The only thing stopping a 3rd world citizen is lack of skill or as you pointed out, facilities. But if you're not properly trained then you're not a professional athlete. Simple as that. They'll be able to play when they are good enough to make it, and not have to wait until someone says "Ok, we'll let them play now."

Their plight is like Europe and any non-US country in basketball. They were never excluded because of skin color, only lack of skill. The NBA started drafting 7 footers from other countries when 7 footers from other countries learned to put the ball in the basket. But black people already had the necessary skills and although this is speculation, I'm gonna say with confidence more skills than those who were allowed to play.

When Yemen develops the next LeBron James, he'll have every opportunity to play in the NBA if he so chooses. But we're not talking about when these athletes developed, we're talking about guys who were already developed but pushed away for non sports related reasons.

Lack of facilities, and thus training and skill is sports related. Too much melanin is not.
 
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you're encroaching upon territory that i don't feel comfortable talking about in 'public,' so to speak.

i'll give you a proper response via pm.
 

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no one compares to Bo - Deion mighta been a better football player, but not a better baseball player, if bo hadn't gotten hurt we would be talking way more about him than we do

now that's players that have been there and done that

you're trippin nikka. no way theres some sort of collective consensus that deoin was the better football player. bo jackson in his prime is top 3 at a much more competitive position.

unless we're saying longevity plays a part...which it shouldnt in this case.
 

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bron couldn't have dominated football. maybe he woulda made it if he kept playing. but i rememeber the seattle coach said come to the U if lebron was serious bout makin the NFL. The next day dude posted a pic on twitter sayin u can be our punter. lol. still made the cut i guess. no one assumed this but i think he couldn't cut it and the coach didn't wanna air him out.

IMO.
 
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