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& Africa suprecedes all of that since that’s our ancestral lands. You don’t get any of this without Africa. Same thing goes for tango, bachata, calypso, merengue and damn near every musical innovation of the last 400 years.

As for your second part, it personally offends me as a New York AA DoS when a bunch of oddball nikkas from the middle of nowhere try to reach and dip and flip to paint a portrait. Hip Hop as a brand and a culture is authentically New York..nowhere else. Not Jamaica, not Georgia, not Nigeria,
Sounds good.

So why ain’t you giving them Jamaican nikkas this same energy? Cause you only bring this shyt up when AA nikka’s add our two cents.
 

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not even a little bit of influence. Herc was continuing an established set of actions and added nothing "jamaican" to the pot, just like the only African thing about James Brown's music was his DNA...and an understudy/fan/admirer named Fela Kuti.
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R & B was "re-Africanized" by Afro-Latin music from Cuba and Brazil. The Music Of Africa, By Way Of Latin America.

Traditional music of Mali is the cousin of Afro-American Blues.
Discovering the Sound of Mali: A Guide to Desert Blues - Project Revolver

Africa is not just the root of the Blues, it’s the root of all human life. The mother continent has more in it than just memories of a glorious past. After African music traveled with slaves to the American continent and became later the Blues, it came back to motherland years later. Desert musicians discovered western instruments and played their folk music on them.


The back-and-forth influence is four way; Africa, the Caribbean, Latin America, African-American. At the end of the day it's all Black music: Blues, Jazz, Reggae, Rock & Roll, Funk, Hip-Hop, Calypso, Samba, Soul, R & B, you name it.
 
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R & B was "re-Africanized" by Afro-Latin music from Cuba and Brazil. The Music Of Africa, By Way Of Latin America.

Traditional music of Mali is the cousin of Afro-American Blues.
Discovering the Sound of Mali: A Guide to Desert Blues - Project Revolver

Africa is not just the root of the Blues, it’s the root of all human life. The mother continent has more in it than just memories of a glorious past. After African music traveled with slaves to the American continent and became later the Blues, it came back to motherland years later. Desert musicians discovered western instruments and played their folk music on them.


The back-and-forth influence is four way; Africa, the Caribbean, Latin America, African-American. At the end of the day it's all Black music: Blues, Jazz, Reggae, Rock & Roll, Funk, Hip-Hop, Calypso, Samba, Soul, R & B, you name it.
No, it wasn't.
So many reaches but our material speaks for itself.
The caribbean gets stuck on "repeat riddim"...mainly influenced by US..
We don't make whole albums out of the same beat because we're too innovative...and ALL of those places you named stay behind in modern music. If the cultural exchange was in parity, you would see new subgenres popping up in those places, and you DON'T.
fukking "latin" infusion.
No, that's congo square "pattin juba"...Respect the architects.
We make it, they take it, rebrand it, and call it something else. You should know, you're a black brit. Y'all 100% jack everything we do, put a cute little posh jamaican accent on it, and give it to cacs.
 

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Sounds good.

So why ain’t you giving them Jamaican nikkas this same energy? Cause you only bring this shyt up when AA nikka’s add our two cents.

Skrap I don’t get into these conversations at all because I know my history, I’m not for allat jibber jibbin where a nikka from some backwater district Mississippi tries to tell me about my borough lol. shyt is corny


Plus I got a lil fan club on here of nikkas telling me where I’m from, what I rep and making up whole conversations between us.. Can’t give the fans too much nah mean shun:russ:
 

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These nikkas give two fukks about African Americans outside of their own locale.

You ever notice with these discussions, it starts out as "it started in the bronx".. But they don't really care for NY nikkas (as you can see in any other threads on here) and it becomes "well lowkey Hip Hop started in the south..YEAH!!!!!".. nikkas is in here posting old ass videos of gospel songs & saying that Hip Hop is Disco and Gospel mixed together, then saying that James Brown was a hip hop DJ all in the same breath:mjlol:. This shyt is a circus. Anytime you see nikkas start tagging in they mans on some WWF shyt, you know what type of timing its on.


The Hip Hop argument on here has always been some The South Will Rise again reaching bullshyt by nikkas from the middle of Alabama some damn where who want gratification & know NOTHING about hip hop. Can't take it serious. You start talking about griots and percussive melodies that go back to them Slave ships (That the grandmasters will tell u themselves) and nikkas get deadly silent. Had this argument with nikkas way too many times on here.

LOL
They don't want the truth, they just want to give their garbaged down rehashed southern fried fruity loop beats and no lyric having nikkas a free pass to make up how fukking trash and white wash the bullshyt is.
The only reason why nikkas gave trap music a pass down south because back then good equipment costed too much so everybody made home made shyt till they could get signed.
I'm not going to lie, some of the 1990s-2010 southern shyt was bumping. And there's dudes out here who still got the essence.
Hip Hop is so watered down to emulate "street black culture" for profit that it's not even a real platform for black ppl to speak their actual voice on real things anymore.
Why you thing they started putting these weird cacs into conscious music? Because black artists could be paid big for a message they can no longer voice.

It just makes me wonder, who really controls the wave of music? :ohhh::wow:
 

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Skrap I don’t get into these conversations at all because I know my history, I’m not for allat jibber jibbin where a nikka from some backwater district Mississippi tries to tell me about my borough lol. shyt is corny


Plus I got a lil fan club on here of nikkas telling me where I’m from, what I rep and making up whole conversations between us.. Can’t give the fans too much nah mean shun:russ:
Whatever you say bruh
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Skokiaan's significance is that it shows how Africa influenced American jazz in particular and popular music in general. Musarurwa's 1947 and 1954 recordings illustrate how unique the indigenous forms of jazz were that emerged in Africa in response to global music trends. While African jazz was influenced from abroad, it also contributed to global trends.[10]

"Skokiaan" has been adapted to various musical stylings, from jazz to mento/reggae (Sugar Belly and the Canefields), and Rock and Roll. The tune has been arranged for strings (South Africa's Soweto String Quartet) and steel drums (Trinidad and Tobago's Southern All Stars[11]). A merengue version was recorded in the Dominican Republic by Antonio Morel y su Orquesta in the 1950s, with saxophone alto arrangement by Felix del Rosario.[12] A number of reggae versions of the song also exist, and marimba covers are particularly popular.

"Skokiaan" has been recorded many times, initially as part of a wave of world music that swept across the globe in the 1950s, spurred on in Africa by Hugh Tracey and in the United States by Alan Lomax, to name two. "Skokiaan" gained popularity outside Africa at the same time as the indigenous South African export, "Mbube" ("Wimoweh"). The sheet music was eventually released in 17 European and African languages.[13]

:blessed:we here!
 

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For what it’s worth a lot of the “it’s all from Africa” talk reminds me of what White folks do when they realize can’t insert themselves into the narrative. That “music doesn’t have color” shyt.
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Yeah all of it points back to Africa no doubt, but do people dismiss other diasporan cultures like that? Cause I haven’t seen it. If anything that African aspect is used to validate those cultures. Just some shyt I noticed.
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It’s even weirder when half the time we’re getting told we ain’t got much African left in us.
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