Where The Word God Comes From - The Real Origins of Religion Stolen From Egyptians

[bouncy]

Proof?​

It dried up in Niger and in Northern countries such as Egypt and Libya 7,000 years ago. Niger lies southwest of Egypt and the Sahara travels south a few inches/year.​

I didn't say any of that. What I said was that part of Niger wasn't desert.​

That is not evidence Egyptians traveled West.​

You have yet to provide evidence of Egyptians traveling through the Sahara or otherwise to get to West Africa.

Only excuses in this exchange have been yours.
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Now you're playing dumb

You turned the argument in the last few posts about the Sahara desert, into my theory on travelling west. Poor deflection

AGAIN.

The link @Canadadry provided, showed the horn of Africa dried up 5,000 years ago. This is when Egypt started to develop. The article states this as well. I then provided a link showing people lived in the Sahara, in parts of Niger between 7,000-4,500 years ago. These are places that go from west to east.

You then write that only parts of Niger wasn't a desert, and the rest of central, and east Africa was(with no proof). We have proven that you are wrong, but you still deflect ,and won't concede to being wrong. I thought it was all about the evidence.

That ego is muh

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Neato
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[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

You turned the argument in the last few posts about the Sahara desert, into my theory on travelling west. Poor deflection

That's the whole point of this discussion. Why the Egyptians didn't settle West Africa.
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The link @Canadadry provided, showed the horn of Africa turned into a desert 5,000 years ago.

Which has nothing to do with conditions in Egypt since that area lies south of Egypt.​

This is when Egypt started to develop. The article states this as well.

That would be the Pre-Dynastic Egyptian culture which is not a factor since they were the ancestors of Egyptians.
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I then provided a link showing people lived in the Sahara, in parts of Niger between 7,000-4,500 years ago. These are places that go from west to east.

Which are all south of Egypt and the Sahara.​

You then write that only parts of Niger wasn't a desert, and the rest of central, and east Africa was(with no proof).

I stated NORTH Africa was dominated by the Sahara. Don't know where you're getting 'the rest of Africa' from. Part of Niger wasn't desert then or now.
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We have proven that you are wrong, but you still deflect ,and won't conceed to being wrong. I thought it was all about the evidence.

Well, since your evidence consists of 'could have' and 'might have' instead of actual evidence, I guess you would be mistaken.
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[bouncy]

Neato
64-YEAR-OLD KAYAKER COMPLETES TRANS-ATLANTIC VOYAGE

THESE DAYS, THANKS to technological advancements in air and sea travel, crossing the Atlantic is usually no big deal. But crossing the Atlantic by yourself in a kayak? Now that’s still something worth celebrating.

Aleksander Doba, a 64-year-old native of Poland, took off from Dakar, capital of the west African nation of Senegal, back on Oct. 26. After 98 days, 23 hours, 42 minutes at sea, Doba and his custom 23-foot-long, 39-inch-wide human-powered kayak landed at Acaraú, a city on Brazil’s northeast coast. The trip covered some 3,320 miles in all, and Doba became only the fourth known person to accomplish such a feat, and the very first to do it nonstop.

Of course, Doba encountered his fair share of obstacles along the way — age, a broken desalination unit, 20-foot swells and stifling equatorial heat — but none of that would deter him, as he survived on dehydrated food products, candy and fish (which he caught along the way). He also made time to collect rainwater for drinking, communicate by sat phone (recharged by solar panels lining his vessel), and even send out a few tweets.

Doba paddled this route across the Atlantic, based on plots from his on-board GPS tracking system.
Incredibly, Doba (a former champion white-water kayaker) averaged only some 34 miles a day, and his average speed for the entire trip was only 1.4 miles per hour. That requires a lot of patience for someone with no access to help or medical aid if something happened to him. But Doba had no major health problems when he arrived in Brazil last week, having seemingly drifted in from nowhere.

And, of course, after arriving back on dry land, Doba did what any self-respecting Brazil-bound kayaker who’d been out on the ocean for 99 days would do: He had a Bohemia beer.

It took this guy over three months, and he is an old frail man, but Egyptians just stayed to their area or went west.

He just helped make a case that African might have traveled to the Americas with nothing but a simple device!

 

[bouncy]

That's the whole point of this discussion. Why the Egyptians didn't settle West Africa.
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Which has nothing to do with conditions in Egypt since that area lies south of Egypt.​

That would be the Pre-Dynastic Egyptian culture which is not a factor since they were the ancestors of Egyptians.
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Which are all south of Egypt and the Sahara.​

I stated NORTH Africa was dominated by the Sahara. Don't know where you're getting 'the rest of Africa' from. Part of Niger wasn't desert then or now.
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Well, since your evidence consists of 'could have' and 'might have' instead of actual evidence, I guess you would be mistaken.
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We will keep going back, and forth, because I can still argue with you about your new statements, but I see what you are about now.

Man, you are such a con artists that you have me confused. You aren't going to admit you are wrong, so I'll let you have the last word.

Thanks everyone who contributed to this discussion, even you funkdoc, because you helped my arguments about Egypt being connected to the rest of Africa, become much stronger. Thank you!

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

We will keep going back, and forth

No we won't. I'll end this now. Do you have any actual evidence to support Egyptians settling West Africa?

Guessing is not evidence. 'Might have' and 'could have' are not evidence.​

 

[bouncy]

I forgot they could have easily travelled along the red Sea into Ethiopia, and then went west without going through the desert. They didn't even need boats, just travel the coastline. There were numerous ways for them to get to western Africa EASILY. Only a fool would believe they wouldn't go into deeper parts of Africa. Be it the average people, or the people in power. Wake the fukk up!

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I forgot they could have easily travelled along the red Sea into Ethiopia, and then went west without going through the desert. They didn't even need boats, just travel the coastline. There were numerous ways for them to get to western Africa EASILY. Only a fool would believe they wouldn't go into deeper parts of Africa. Be it the average people, or the people in power. Wake the fukk up!

Do you have ANY evidence to support YOUR claim?​

 

[Mr. Somebody]

It took this guy over three months, and he is an old frail man, but Egyptians just stayed to their area or went west.

He just helped make a case that African might have traveled to the Americas with nothing but a simple device!

Let's go with the narrative that Africans were just stuck in a small circle for thousands of years because they were scared to travel.

 

[bouncy]

Do you have ANY evidence to support YOUR claim?​

First of all, I already stated these were theories. Then I did show evidence to help my claims, but you still downplay. I will say, I don't have anything for the red Sea theory, but even if I gave it to you, you would still give the run around.

I was suppose to give you the last word, but I found something new. I want to hear your new excuse after this.

http://www.ancient-origins.net/news...year-old-rock-art-barren-sahara-desert-020162
Debate over 7,000-year-old rock art in barren Sahara Desert that may depict people swimming

"That said, the giraffes engraved on the cave’s walls about 7,000 years ago were likely from that area of Egypt. The area as recently 5,000 years ago had been grassland with lakes and many animals, including giraffes and even hippopotamuses."

Giraffes and what look like a goat, a dog, people and cows on cave walls in the Egyptian Sahara

Cattle depicted in Sahara Desert cave paintings at Gebel el Uweinat, southwestern Egypt

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2000/dec/27/archaeology.internationalnews
"Egypt began to turn to desert in about 3,500BC. Until then, the landscape would have been much like the present east African savannah, with waterholes and seasonal rivers, and with much the same fauna"


EVIDENCE

"Until the last two or three years, people had been looking entirely in the Nile valley, and people had never really considered that there might be a vast treasurehouse of information out there in what is now desert, because it is so inhospitable and inaccessible today," Dr Wilkinson said.

"People hadn't stopped to think that it might have been rather different thousands of years ago."

Didn't I write it all starts with the idea?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Let's go with the narrative that Africans were just stuck in a small circle for thousands of years because they were scared to travel.

......post #33

Humanity started in Africa so it is only common-sense that they traversed most the continent prior to leaving. This is the theory created by Cheikh Anta Diop and supported by mountains of evidence.

How about you read my responses before trying to dikkride 'theories' with NO evidence to support them?​

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

First of all, I already stated these were theories. Then I did show evidence to help my claims, but you still downplay. I will say, I don't have anything for the red Sea theory, but even if I gave it to you, you would still give the run around.

I was suppose to give you the last word, but I found something new. I want to hear your new excuse after this.

None of that proves EGYPTIANS traveled through the Sahara to Western Africa which is the point of this entire thing.

This is not evidence that will support your claim.​

 

[bouncy]

None of that proves EGYPTIANS traveled through the Sahara to Western Africa which is the point of this entire thing.

This is not evidence that will support your claim.​

So you admit that Egypt wasn't a desert 7,000 years ago, and now you have to change parts of your argument?

BTW, those people were the ones who create egypt, so they were Egyptians. This is important as far as DNA, and west Africans, but that is another topic. I just want to see if you will admit you were wrong on something.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

So you admit that Egypt wasn't a desert 7,000 years ago

No. I plainly stated the Sahara dominated North Africa.
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BTW, those people were the ones who create egypt, so they were Egyptians.

LOL, and your link just destroyed your argument..........​

Discoveries that open a new window on the prehistory of ancient Egypt have been made by British archaeologists who have found 30 sites rich in art chiselled into rocks up to 6,000 years ago in the desert east of the Nile.

The rock drawings show cattle, boats, ostriches, giraffes, hippos and the men and women who lived in the area in 4,000BC, long before the first pharaohs, or the first pyramids.

The Sahara dominated North Africa by 5,000 BCE......1,000 years prior to the drawings.

The Sahara grows about 0.6 km/yr in each direction. 0.6 x 1000 = 600 km.​

I know the other link was the southwest, but that doesn't prove they went any further or that the desert didn't stop them from going further (since it grows), so, therefore, you have yet to prove Egyptians traveled to West Africa.​

 

[bouncy]

No. I plainly stated the Sahara dominated North Africa.
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LOL, and your link just destroyed your argument..........​

The Sahara dominated North Africa by 5,000 BCE......1,000 years prior to the drawings.

The Sahara grows about 0.6 km/yr in each direction. 0.6 x 1000 = 600 km.​

I know the other link was the southwest, but that doesn't prove they went any further or that the desert didn't stop them from going further (since it grows), so, therefore, you have yet to prove Egyptians traveled to West Africa.​

Yeah, you won't admit it. Sad.

You just keep ignoring things. You pick, and choose, then twist shyt around, so its no point arguing with you.

You just ignored where it states Egypt turned into a desert in 3500 b.c.

They called it a desert because that's what it is now. I realize you don't have reading comprehension or you just have blinders on. I even quoted it for you, because I doubt you are reading these links.

The first link states Egypt wasn't a desert 5,000 years ago. And I don't know what you mean the link proved me wrong. Do you not understand societies aren't built in a day? By ignoring the founders, you ignore what made the place what it is. That's like saying America was nothing before 1776, and after. It's ridiculous. Since you don't read these links, I'll do it for you. This is the rest of the link you just chose to ignore:

"Egyptologists now think that the forefathers of the pyramid builders could be the same people who left their signatures on stones in the desert 6,000 years ago.

"Some of it is quite breathtaking," Dr Wilkinson said. "It is very difficult to date precisely, but looking at the stylistic parallels, a lot of this art has got to be from around 4,000BC. That is pretty old - and some of it is even older.

Some of the boats chiselled into the rocks are fairly simple. Some seem to have religious significance. They show figures with large plumes in their hair, like the later gods of Egypt. Some of the boats are being dragged - an image that recurs in the tombs in the Valley of the Kings. Some of the figures depicted are clearly chiefs, wearing what might be ostrich feathers.

There is a lovely little scene of seven women dancing, holding hands," Dr Wilkinson said. "They seem to have skirts on, but in general the figures are quite rudimentary. We think of Egypt today as just a narrow strip on either side of the Nile valley. We are going to have to rethink our idea of the extent of Egypt, 7,000 or 6,000 years ago. It wasn't just the Nile valley, it was this vast area on either side which was able to support life.

"These people moved out of the savannahs into the Nile valley and settled there, and this is what kickstarted Egyptian civilisation."



You are being tricky, and its sad because you aren't living by the same shyt you was preaching. I'm done with ya!