Where is the Single Payer System or real Socialized Healthcare?

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On the real, why are some on the left so damn impatient? There's basically no huge law that came out the box perfect...especially the famous ones y'all like to tout (SS,Medicare)...Medicare might be a slight exception because that was for grandma (I mean who doesn't love grandma right?), but even then there have been improvements to it over time that wasn't in the original law passed.

Bottom line is that most big ass laws are works in progress...its not hard to imagine this law being continually improved as we go along (especially with dem congress and presidents)...we just might end up at the right place 12 years from now.

 

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On the real, why are some on the left so damn impatient? There's basically no huge law that came out the box perfect...especially the famous ones y'all like to tout (SS,Medicare)...Medicare might be a slight exception because that was for grandma (I mean who doesn't love grandma right?), but even then there have been improvements to it over time that wasn't in the original law passed.

Bottom line is that most big ass laws are works in progress...its not hard to imagine this law being continually improved as we go along (especially with dem congress and presidents)...we just might end up at the right place 12 years from now.

Impatient breh? 80 Years?

The European countries and Canada have had this system since the 50s/60s/70s breh

 

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On the real, why are some on the left so damn impatient? There's basically no huge law that came out the box perfect...especially the famous ones y'all like to tout (SS,Medicare)...Medicare might be a slight exception because that was for grandma (I mean who doesn't love grandma right?), but even then there have been improvements to it over time that wasn't in the original law passed.

Bottom line is that most big ass laws are works in progress...its not hard to imagine this law being continually improved as we go along (especially with dem congress and presidents)...we just might end up at the right place 12 years from now.

Social Security + Medicaid were big sweeping laws. The Sarbanes-Oxley act was a big sweeping law. The Civil Rights Act was a big sweeping law. Sorry bruh, I'm not gonna dampen my expectations of govt because the left + moderates are too afraid to take on the right.

This thing is purely a shift of more wealth to corporations (in this case health insurers). How can anyone who is not a health insurer support a bill that penalizes people for not buying health insurance, in the middle of a recession?

The real only plan is to shift Medicaid to cover everyone, and offer companies discounted premiums (which they will be naturally due to the lower risk of the larger group) to pay into it. My job pays like $800/mo or something crazy for my plan, but I'm paying like 1/10th that into Medicare. It would be even less if it was a national plan.

 

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So you're status quo until you get exactly what you want. That doesnt make sense. Sacraficing lives for principle is foolish.

 

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Social Security + Medicaid were big sweeping laws. The Sarbanes-Oxley act was a big sweeping law. The Civil Rights Act was a big sweeping law. Sorry bruh, I'm not gonna dampen my expectations of govt because the left + moderates are too afraid to take on the right.

This thing is purely a shift of more wealth to corporations (in this case health insurers). How can anyone who is not a health insurer support a bill that penalizes people for not buying health insurance, in the middle of a recession?

The real only plan is to shift Medicaid to cover everyone, and offer companies discounted premiums (which they will be naturally due to the lower risk of the larger group) to pay into it. My job pays like $800/mo or something crazy for my plan, but I'm paying like 1/10th that into Medicare. It would be even less if it was a national plan.

U completely missed my point breh...

Do the research, most of those laws u named were considered weak compromises that didn't go far enough when they first dropped (sounds familiar?). But eventually over time they were improved. Social Security is the biggest example of this, even the Civil Rights Act was considered a major compromise from the original goal at the time.