Where is the history of the Minoans?

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It was only a matter of time folks :mjpls:

DNA reveals origin of Greece's ancient Minoan culture - BBC News



The cycle repeats itself over and over. Clear works showing northern African influence all through architecture, style and lifestyle, even referenced in this article. Then it's "we can't really find anything on the history, it was mostly destroyed in natural disasters." Then when they start to "find" ,or manufacture as I call it, everything gets traced to Northern Europe. How in the world could the French get over the Alps and all the way to Crete before the Egyptians, Tunisians, Libyans or even native Italians?

So the French crossed the Alps prior to 4000 b.c. :dahell:


I'm not even going to entertain the idea of Scandinavia :bryan: we got brehs walking from Norway and crossing the Mediterranean :dead:
Weren't the French just barbarians back then?
 

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KNOSSOS: FAKES, FACTS, AND MYSTERY
By Mary Beard

New York Review of Books
August 13, 2009 (posted circa Aug. 4)
Pages 58 & 60-61

"[N]o category of objects has ever been more systematically faked than Minoan antiquities," wrote Mary Beard in the Aug. 13 number of the New York Review of Books, reviewing a new study of the role of Knossos in twentieth-century culture.[1] -- Presided over by wealthy British archaeologist Sir Arthur Evans (1851-1941), who was able to excavate Knossos because he bought the site wholesale, the reconstruction of the culture of Knossos must be reconsidered, because "a substantial number of . . . 'Minoan' objects, are certain forgeries." -- Author Cathy Gere thinks that this has implications for contemporary culture, because "t was at Knossos, she argues, that prehistory gave shape to a prophetic modernist vision, which repeatedly reinvented the Minoans as Dionysiac, peaceable protofeminists in touch with their inner souls. . . . [T]hey almost always appeared in stark contrast to the militaristic Aryan culture of their roughly contemporary prehistoric rivals, the Mycenaeans. From de Chirico to the Summer of Love, from Jane Ellen Harrison to Freud and H.D., theorists, artists, and dreamers found their future in the remote Minoan past. . . . Knossos and the Prophets of Modernism traces the story of the modern engagement with Knossos from Evans's first visit to Crete in the late nineteenth century almost up to the present day. It leads from the avant-garde art of de Chirico, through the famous archaeological obsessions of Freud and H.D. ('a psycho-archaeological folie à deux' that brought a version of Minoan primitivism to the analyst's couch), to the frankly dotty ideas of matriarchal goddesses floated by Robert Graves and Marija Gimbutas." ...

Gotta question those DNA studies as well:mjpls:
 

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KNOSSOS: FAKES, FACTS, AND MYSTERY
By Mary Beard

New York Review of Books
August 13, 2009 (posted circa Aug. 4)
Pages 58 & 60-61

"[N]o category of objects has ever been more systematically faked than Minoan antiquities," wrote Mary Beard in the Aug. 13 number of the New York Review of Books, reviewing a new study of the role of Knossos in twentieth-century culture.[1] -- Presided over by wealthy British archaeologist Sir Arthur Evans (1851-1941), who was able to excavate Knossos because he bought the site wholesale, the reconstruction of the culture of Knossos must be reconsidered, because "a substantial number of . . . 'Minoan' objects, are certain forgeries." -- Author Cathy Gere thinks that this has implications for contemporary culture, because "t was at Knossos, she argues, that prehistory gave shape to a prophetic modernist vision, which repeatedly reinvented the Minoans as Dionysiac, peaceable protofeminists in touch with their inner souls. . . . [T]hey almost always appeared in stark contrast to the militaristic Aryan culture of their roughly contemporary prehistoric rivals, the Mycenaeans. From de Chirico to the Summer of Love, from Jane Ellen Harrison to Freud and H.D., theorists, artists, and dreamers found their future in the remote Minoan past. . . . Knossos and the Prophets of Modernism traces the story of the modern engagement with Knossos from Evans's first visit to Crete in the late nineteenth century almost up to the present day. It leads from the avant-garde art of de Chirico, through the famous archaeological obsessions of Freud and H.D. ('a psycho-archaeological folie à deux' that brought a version of Minoan primitivism to the analyst's couch), to the frankly dotty ideas of matriarchal goddesses floated by Robert Graves and Marija Gimbutas." ...

Gotta question those DNA studies as well:mjpls:
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Look at all dem white folk:obama:
 

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The Minoans (Thera, Crete, etc.) weren't Pelasgian (pre-Hellene Greeks).

The Minoans were not Greeks, and their language, religion, and social structures were not Greek. Most of what is known or can be guessed about the Minoans comes from modern Archaeology on Crete. (The little island of Thera also has yielded an important Minoan site.) Evidence suggests that the Minoans emerged from a fusion between existing Cretan inhabitants and invaders from Asia Minor during the era 2900–2200 BCE. These people became master seafarers and built a society inspired partly by contact with the Egyptian Old Kingdom (ca. 2650–2250 BCE). By about 1900 BCE the Minoans were acquiring an Aegean Sea empire and were constructing palaces on Crete—at Cnossus, Phaestus, Mallia, and Khania—that were bigger and more elaborate than any buildings outside the Near East. So confident were the Minoans in their naval power that they declined to encircle their palaces with defensive walls.

Wealth came from Cretan farming and fishing, from taxes paid by subject peoples in the Cyclades and other Aegean locales, and from long-distance trade. Minoan objects discovered by archaeologists outside Crete indicate two-way commerce with Egypt, Asia Minor, and the Levant as well as with western Italy (a region that offered raw tin and copper, the components of Bronze). But much Minoan trade, especially after 1600 BCE, was with the northwestern Aegean mainland now called Greece, where Greek-speaking tribes had been settling since about 2100 BCE.

The Minoans' importance for Greek history is that they supplied the model for the Greeks' Mycenaean Civilization, which arose on the mainland ca. 1600 BCE. The Mycenaean fortress palaces at Mycenae, Tiryns, and elsewhere were warlike imitations of Minoan palaces on Crete. Mycenaean skills in metalworking, Pottery-making, and other handicrafts were improved by copying Cretan models. The Mycenaean form of writing—a syllabary script that modern scholars call Linear B, invented soon before 1400 BCE—was copied from the Minoan system (a yet-undeciphered script called Linear A). Eventually the Mycenaeans were ready to challenge Minoan supremacy in the Aegean.

Daily scenes of the Minoans' life are preserved on some of their beautiful art objects, which include cut gems, worked Gold, terra-cotta figurines, vase paintings, and frescoes. Sensuous and modern-seeming in design, Minoan pictorial art favors sea animals and other subjects from nature. Religious scenes often show a goddess (or priestess) with a subordinate male figure or with wild beasts, such as lions, in tame postures. Evidence of this kind leads many scholars to conclude that Minoan religion was centered on a mother goddess or a group of goddesses overseeing nature and bounty. Aspects of Minoan worship apparently infiltrated Greek religion in the cult of certain goddesses, such as Artemis and Hera.

The Minoans ascribed religious or magical power to dancing and to the remarkable athletic performance now known as bull leaping. Minoan reverence for the bull is probably reflected in Greek Myths of later days, such as the interrelated tales of Minos and of Theseus and the Minotaur, or the tale of Heracles and the Cretan bull.

Minoan high society probably revolved around a priest-king or priest-queen whose capital city was Cnossus and whose royal emblem was the labrus, a double-headed ax. Scenes in art suggest a confident, vivacious life at court. Upper-class Women—portrayed as wearing flounced skirts and open-breasted tunics—apparently played prominent roles in court life (as opposed to the secluded existence of women in Greece in later centuries).

The material level enjoyed by the Minoan ruling class was probably unsurpassed anywhere before the late 19th century CE. The Cnossus palace, reaching three stories in parts, boasted clay-piped plumbing and a clever system of air wells to bring light and ventilation to interior rooms. Coinage had not yet been invented, but Minoan wealth was measured in luxury items and in farm surplus such as sheep, pigs, and olive oil (great quantities of which were stored at Cnossus).

The Minoan golden age on Crete, ca. 1900–1450 BCE, was a time of peace but was troubled by natural disasters. Archaeology at Cnossus shows that the palace was destroyed twice by earthquake, ca. 1730 and 1570 BCE. Circa 1480 BCE Cretan coastal regions suffered damage and depopulation, possibly caused by tidal waves from the volcanic explosion of Thera, 70 miles away.

The Cnossus palace, on high ground, survived, but new archaeological signs of distress in the mid-1400s BCE include proliferation of war equipment and the first appearance on Crete of the horse (presumably imported as a tool of war). Overseas, Minoan pottery from this time is absent from certain sites—a sign of disrupted trade routes. Presumably a foreign enemy or number of enemies, taking advantage of Cretan natural disaster, had begun to cut into the Minoan Empire. These enemies surely included groups of Mycenaean Greeks.

In about 1400 BCE or soon after, all the Cretan palaces were destroyed by fire, presumably in war. The most obvious explanation for this simultaneous destruction is a Mycenaean invasion of Crete. Intriguingly, archaeological evidence suggests that, prior to this invasion, Mycenaean Greeks had already taken over the Cnossus palace and that it was they who were destroyed in the palace's ruin. There may have been rival Mycenaean armies, battling each other for control of Crete.

Although the Mycenaean victors seem to have abandoned Crete soon after 1400 BCE, the Minoan culture was finished.
 

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Mycenaean is the term used by modern scholars to describe the earliest flowering of mainland Greek culture, ca. 1600–1200 BCE. The Mycenaeans were Greeks whose warlike society rose and fell long before the era of classical Greece. The classical Greeks of ca. 400 BCE half remembered their Mycenaean forebears as a race of heroes, celebrated in Myth and Epic Poetry.

In world prehistory, the Mycenaeans comprised the last of several great civilizations to emerge in the eastern Mediterranean during the Bronze age. The Mycenaeans' urban building, military organization, and Trade seem to have been partly copied from a few preexisting, non-Greek, Bronze Age cultures—namely, the Middle and New Kingdoms of Egypt, the Hittite kingdom of Asia Minor, and especially, the Minoan Civilization of Crete.

The Mycenaeans lived before the era of history-writing, and thus most details of their story—such as their rulers' names or the reasons why their entire society collapsed in fiery ruin around 1200 BCE—remain unknown. Modern knowledge relies mostly on artifacts uncovered by Archaeology at a few sites, such as Mycenae, Tiryns, and Pylos (in the Peloponnese) and Thebes, Orchomenus, and Athens (in central Greece). The artifacts include Pottery, stone carvings, jewelry, and armor—most of it found in the tombs of rulers—as well as the remnants of Mycenaean stone palaces and defenses. Particularly, the sites of Mycenae and Tiryns still show huge fortifications built by Mycenaean inhabitants in the 1300s and 1200s BCE

In addition, a few sites have yielded primitive Mycenaean written records, inscribed on clay tablets that seem to date from about 1400 BCE or 1200 BCE, depending on the site. Written in a script that modern scholars call Linear B, the records have been deciphered mainly as lists of inventory—produce, livestock, military equipment—and accounts of goods-distribution, religious rites, and similar daily events. The tablets provide precious information on the social structure, economy, and Religion of the Mycenaeans, as well as on the early-stage Greek Language that they spoke.

Aside from archaeology, some insight into the Mycenaeans has been gained from a cautious reading of Homer's epic poems, the Illiad and Odyssey. Although written ca. 750 BCE, more than 400 years after the Mycenaeans' disappearance, these poems derive from oral tradition that stretches back to the Mycenaeans. It is believed that the poems faithfully record certain aspects of Mycenaean upper-class life—such as the warrior code and the network of local kings—amid distortions and overlays.

The first Greek-speaking tribes arrived in mainland Greece ca. 2100 BCE, from the Danube region. But 500 years went by before the emergence of the culture that we call Mycenaean: The remarkable social and technological changes of these intervening centuries can only be guessed at. No doubt the Greeks were deeply influenced by the non-Greek people they had conquered, and from them the Greeks probably learned skills such as stone masonry, shipbuilding, navigation, the cultivation of the olive and certain other crops, and the worship of certain female deities (with associated, new spiritual concepts). Similarly, the Greeks were inspired by the palace society of Minoan Crete.

The Mycenaean era began around 1600 BCE, as archaeology reveals. Several sites in Greece came under control of powerful rulers who were buried in elaborate tombs, unlike the simple graves of prior centuries. And within a few generations the tomb designs altered again, suggesting further dynastic changes and evolving organization. The six treasure-filled tombs at Mycenae known as Grave Circle A—built in the era 1550–1500 BCE and discovered intact by Schliemann—provide clear proof of the rulers' wealth and overseas contacts. For example, the tombs contain items of Gold that were shaped by Greek smiths, but the raw metal probably came from Asia Minor or Egypt. The warlike nature of these leaders is suggested by the many weapons left as offerings in the tombs.

In Greece's terrain, where mountain ranges separate the flatlands, the Mycenaeans apparently emerged as four or so major kingdoms, each based at a large farming plain. Two of these domains were in the Peloponnese: the plain of Argos (with its capital at Mycenae) and the plain of Messenia (capital at Pylos). One was in central Greece: the plain of Boeotia (with the cities Thebes and Orchomenus vying for supremacy). And one was in the north, on the great plain of Thessaly (capital at Iolcus). Lesser kingdoms probably existed as well. But the greatest domain was Mycenae, as indicated by its signs of superior wealth and by the testimony of Greek myth. In Homer's Illiad, the Mycenaean king Agamemnon is the supreme commander, to whom all other kings, such as Odysseus and Nestor, owe obedience.

One event of the Mycenaean era that modern scholars are sure of is that by around 1450 BCE Mycenaeans had taken over the Cretan palace at Cnossus—probably as the result of a Mycenaean naval invasion of Crete. Mysteriously, the Mycenaeans seem to have abandoned Crete soon thereafter, ca. 1400 BCE But the years of occupation there taught Mycenaean rulers certain organizational skills—such as improved architectural techniques and the use of Cretan Writing (adapted at this time, as the Linear B script)—that ushered in 200 years of the Mycenaean heyday in mainland Greece, ca. 1400–1200 BCE

It was now that the Mycenaeans built their own palaces, adapted from the Minoan palaces on Crete. Mycenae and Tiryns were turned into elaborate, high-walled castles; other palaces, such as at Pylos, arose without huge defenses. The social and economic structure of these centers is partly revealed by the Linear B tablets. The palace was the seat of the king (wanax in Mycenaean Greek); beyond the capital city, a network of outlying villages paid taxes, obeyed the king's laws, and relied on him for defense against other rulers. Tha palace was also a center of industry, where metalworkers, weavers, perfumers, and many other crafts people turned out finished goods, to enrich the king or to be distributed by him. Raw materials came from local taxes (sheep's wool, for example) and from overseas trade.

The premier metal for war and industry was Bronze (the use of Iron being introduced to the Greek world only later). The search for bronze's two components—copper and tin—led Mycenaean sea traders far and wide. Large remains of Mycenaean pottery in Cyprus show that parts of that copper-rich island were colonized by Mycenaeans. On the western Asia Minor coast, the site of Miletus probably became a Mycenaean trading colony, mainly for the acquisition of raw metals. Toward the other end of the Mediterranean, extant pottery suggests a Mycenaean presence in western Italy, where tin could be found.

The Mycenaean rulers commanded armies of heavy infantry. The soldiers' standardized equipment, including bronze breastplates and helmets, is recorded on Linear B tablets. Various evidence paints a picture of Mycenaean kings or princes leading Viking-like raids overseas, of which the biggest were the (presumed) invasions of Crete and Cyprus. On certain Linear B tablets, Slaves are mentioned by names that suggest they came from Asia Minor; probably they were captured in Mycenaean raids there. The Greek myth of Jason (1) and the Argonauts may distortedly commemorate such an overseas expedition. But the Mycenaean kingdoms fought also against each other: the legend of the Seven Against Thebes seems clearly based on actual warfare between Mycenae and Thebes.

By about 1250 BCE the Mycenaean world had come under pressure, due partly to upheavals in the Near East. The decline of the Hittite kingdom in Asia Minor probably brought a gradual closing of the Mycenaeans' eastern trade routes. Deprived of raw metals for industry and conquest, Mycenaean society began to whither. The Greek legend of the Trojan War may recall the Mycenaeans' attempt to keep trade routes open by removing the interfering, non-Greek, Hellespontine city Troy, ca. 1220 BCE

Finally, it seems, the Mycenaean kingdoms turned against each other and destroyed each other, in a desperate bid for survival. Archaeology clearly reveals the fiery ruin of Thebes, Mycenae, and other centers in the 50 years leading down to 1200 BCE At Pylos, the final days are dramatically indicated in emergency troop movements and religious sacrifices recorded on Linear B tablets.

Modern historians used to believe that this wholesale destruction was the work of outsiders—specifically, Dorian Greeks invading from the northwest. But more recent scholarship concludes that the Dorian invasion, ca. 1100 BCE, was merely opportunistic: The Mycenaeans had already exhausted themselves through internal war.

In the villages outside of the wrecked palaces, Mycenaean society survived on an improverished scale during the 1100s BCE Social change in these rural areas can be glimpsed in the development of a certain Greek word: The official title quasireu, which during the Mycenaean heyday had indicated a local sheriff (a relatively low position), gradually changed to basileus and took on a new meaning, "king." These men became the new local rulers within the disintegrated Mycenaean kingdoms.


David Sacks
Ancient Greece: Minoan civilization. Encyclopedia of the Ancient Greek World.
New York: Facts On File, Inc., 1995
 
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