Where do you think Game of Thrones went wrong?

[The Devil's Advocate]

Haven't read the books at all. Tried reading the first book, and it started really dry for me, so I put it down something like 10 years ago, and have yet to pick it back up. I just watched the show along with everyone else, so I don't really have a bias or preference to go off of.

However, I've watched enough TV and movies to know a setup when I see one. The problem with Dany for a lot of people is that they often take a character being a protagonist as automatically being right, despite their flaws. The biggest red flag presented throughout the entire series was that everything about her pursuit of the Iron Throne was centered around her believing herself to be entitled to it by birthright. She lives out her life believing that she is a queen in exile who will return as a beloved savior, and has a massive messiah complex. She's told multiple times by everyone around her that her approach ultimately won't work, but most of her solutions are "But I got dragons, tho." It was painfully obvious that she was never going to be the kind and just ruler she thought she was going to be. Her snapping at the end is SUPPOSED to be a culmination of her having nearly every single dream of hers snatched away by someone else (Jon is the actual heir to the throne, and clearly the better option as ruler, she loses her spot as fire slinging savior because Arya is the one to kill the Night King, not her or her remaining dragon, and on top of that the people of Westeros aren't fukking with her like that), but they fukked it up by serving her most of those Ls in the previous four episodes because they blew through the last two seasons.

I'm with you that you CAN connect the dots. We all were in these threads, calling out endings. This was discussed as an outcome.

I'm saying they never drove that point. She was constantly making moves to win over the people. Every murder or killing she made could be justified. And if you lean towards mistakes like burning up The dad and dikkon.. She usually was remorseful, and then made other moves to make it right. There was nothing loopy in her kills. There was no torture or killing just to kill. It didn't usually come in quick anger. She didn't have mental breakdown. She wins.. They ring the bells.. She looks at the castle like fukk them..... Heads straight for the Lannisters....



And then starts systematically burning down innocent people and buildings


Look at the flight pattern.. She just weaving back and forth, not even heading towards the castle, so she can mow down more people..




That was some batshyt crazy shyt that was not reinforcement by anything that happened in that show. You're right. If they didn't rush it, they had 2-3 good seasons of her turning, even slightly, to land that shyt.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

You said all that shyt just to end up agreeing with our posts with your last sentence

We're saying the same thing essentially

The Dany foreshadowing was there, but juxtaposed with her going from level 1 to level 10 yes it was a mess

But again we can't act like Dany wasn't an a$$hole with progressively more Karen-ish tendencies the bigger them dragons got. But once again we're so used to seeing that from female characters it doesn't register

And YES she was justified in most of the shyt she did. But so was Anakin Skywalker

Being a villain ain't about being right, it's about how a character reacts to being wronged

Anakin killed all those sand people. He routinely spoke of having one person rule it all and killing whoever didn't listen. He was constantly mad, crying, angry, didn't listen, challenged the Jedi Masters. Motherfukker was hanging and chillin and praising the emperor.. I never watched the cartoons. This is just stuff in the movies. They'd even play the damn Vader music whenever he did something too crazy. They telegraphed the shyt out of that one IN THE PLOT OF THE MOVIE.

They did not do that with GOT. They shoehorned it in, in a rush. It's not like there wasn't enough. It wasn't there. Her killing people who wanted to kill her, and in war, was nowhere close to murdering millions of people who never even got a chance to say "Hey queen we love you" or "fukk you bytch" before getting wiped out.

 

[Absolut da poet ®]

The Night King is the main villain

• The final episode should close with Arya killing him
• Cersei should have either A) Died by Dragon in the tower when Dany T. Rode up on her OR B) Arya kills her as she was trying to escape the city and the dragon by chance since Arya was on the way there with The Hound
• Jon Snow should marry Dany T. and become King

 

[kash10003]

White people love incest brehs, they always ruin it with them weird ass fraternal love stories, ie cersei and jamie, dany and jon snow, dexter and that sister

 

[Big Blue]

I actually don't mind the ending that much. But it was just too fukking rushed.

 

[Sghost597]

shyt writers got exposed when they got to actually write shyt instead of snorting coke.

Shocker.

 

[Sghost597]

I actually don't mind the ending that much. But it was just easy to fukking rushed.

Kind of absurd that HBO let someone do that to them with their cash cow...

 

[Breh the HitMang]

The Knight King shouldve destroyed everyone but Bran, Bran shouldve used his power to transport himself back in time to undo the damage, I thought the Hodor death reveal was leaning towards this direction

 

[AllHolosEve]

 

[AllHolosEve]

- Littlefinger outmaneuvered by Sansa and Arya and Sansa ending ruling the North

-This shyt made absolutely no sense & only the Night King shyt's worse. Sansa throws out conspiracy about John Arryn & Lysa Arryn SHE CAN'T PROVE. Sansa brings up Lysa's dedn't read the books or watch it over the years on tv. I bought seasons 1-7 right before 8 was about to drop on dvd. This is from someone who binged it all.

ath while totally CONTRADICTING her previous testimony. Sansa brings up conspiracy about Littlefinger plotting with the Lannisters against Ned that SHE CAN'T PROVE. Sansa brings up the Ramsey conspiracy that she CAN'T PROVE went how it did. Bran brings up a quote from a convo without context that NO ONE CAN PROVE even happened. Arya having a dagger as evidence of an assassination attempt EVERYONE still blames on Tyrion & NO ONE CAN PROVE involved Littlefinger. They literally accused him of a bunch of shyt & killed him with NO EVIDENCE.
-Meanwhile there's actual proof Sansa claimed said Lysa's death wasn't murder. There's actual proof Sansa had something to do with Geoffrey's murder & Littlefinger saved her from the Lannisters. There's proof Littlefinger saved Sansa from Ramsey.

-Edit: Coli keeps fukking up my post.

 

[x-factor7]

Kind of absurd that HBO let someone do that to them with their cash cow...

This might be one of the few instances in history where executive/studio interference would've actually helped the show. HBO wanted to extend the show to 10 seasons. That would've been plenty of time to setup a good conclusion and not rush it like they did with seasons 7 & 8.

 

[Jax]

This might be one of the few instances in history where executive/studio interference would've actually helped the show. HBO wanted to extend the show to 10 seasons. That would've been plenty of time to setup a good conclusion and not rush it like they did with seasons 7 & 8.

Motherfukkers wanted to do a Star Wars trilogy so bad. Maybe do such a good job that they get hired by Disney permanently.
They wanted that shyt so bad and had to end things fast with HBO.