Where did this narrative that Magoo was complete trash come from?

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NY all day..Da Stead & BK..
HE WASNT TRASH.

JUST AN AVERAGE MC OVER DOPE BEATS.

I NEVER HEARD ANYONE
CALL HIM TRASH BACK IN THE 90S.
THIS IS MORE OF A RECENT WAVE.
:devil:
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Ionno about u bro but I been callin this nikka trash since his inception. Lol. Hated everything about this nikka. I used to make fun of his voice crazy.
 

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man, ive said this a few times on here...Tim has classic hip hop beats that get lost because of who's rapping over them

this is one of my favorite beats ever as well

i hate that he'll make shyt like this for Magoo but then get with Jadakiss and do some shyt like Good Girl :gucci:

Most MC's don't know Timbaland has beats like "Writin Rhymes" in his arsenal. So when he links with a Jadakiss, who makes songs to pander to different audiences, they are going to get a generic Timbaland beat as opposed to a top notch track that he'd give to Missy, Magoo, or Jay Z. There's also the fact that Timbaland came in helming albums, so when artists go to him for these one off tracks or a single, he's hit or miss.
 

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Magoo has never been a rapper that was taken seriously. IMO, its why Timbaland & Magoo never had more success as duo outside of Welcome To Our World. As long as they made music that people could party to, they were cool. When Timbaland started hearing how wack people thought Magoo was, both of them changed how they sounded. Timbaland started sounding more aggressive and Magoo sounded like he was struggling to find another style.

Magoo was dope on "Beep Me 911", "Deep In My Memory", and "Party People" though.
 

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Right! I have literally never even seen or heard anyone argue otherwise until this thread.
That shyt was blowing my mind. Even when they first dropped me and the homies was all killing Magoo for being wack but how great the beats were. He was decent at riding the beat but was saying a bunch of bullshyt to the point the flow didn't make up for it.
 

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I don’t know where this notion that Magoo being called wack is some new shyt coming from. I remember in real time being :hhh: at that nikka raps.


This is a review from 2001 from some random ass dude. You can tell by his tone in this review that Magoo was definitely considered wack at that time.



The positive – an entire album produced by Timbaland. The uber-producer of the 20th and the 21st century, Timbaland has been the architect behind more hip-hop and R&B hits than can possibly be counted on all your fingers and toes. Even the songs he produced which aren’t hits have achieved a unique cult fandom in music, due to the fact he’s never afraid to do the strange or bizarre in order to create a new sound. Timbaland’s sonic landscape includes, but is not limited to, belly-dancing, disco funk, science fiction and good ol’ fashionedSOUL.

The negative – an entire album featuring Magoo. Few rappers have been the butt of as many jokes as this unfortunate MC whose voice is undeniably a dead-ringer for Q-Tip from A Tribe Called Quest. Loudly and often many of Timbaland’s fans AND critics have questioned why a rapper who is more likely to be a clone than Dolly the Sheep has been so prominently featured on Timbaland’s tracks. In many circles a strong opinion exists that Timbaland and Magoo’s album “Welcome to Our World” would have been a perfect album.. MINUS Magoo.

Although the dichotomy seems clear when analyzed in the abstract, the truth of both realities is somewhat more fuzzy. Timbaland is not God, and is therefore as fallible as any mortal when it comes to making duds. Although this album starts out strongly, it really bogs down in the middle with too many straight songs featuring Petey Pablo. The logic of this decision escapes me – it hurts both a good rapper and an excellent producer by presenting too much of the same in repeated doses. A break comes with the ironically titled “Roll Out”, which slows things down while Missy’s protege Tweet gets a chance to croon. (If the irony escaped you it’s that the lead single from Ludacris’ “Word of Mouf” has the same title, and was also produced by Timbaland.)

Magoo on the other hand is not nearly as wack as previously estimated. His basic steelo has not drastically changed, but his flow and the caliber of his lyrics seems much improved. On songs like “It’s Your Night” and “Considerate Brotha” featuring Ludacris he sounds pleasantly pimpish – slowing down his delivery and in doing so presents a much richer vocal tone. On songs like “All Y’all” the more familiar Magoo flow is in effect, but paired with alternating verses by Tweet his dreams of rags to riches sound sweet over Timbaland’s hypnotic beat. Give him the most credit for his rap on “Party People” though – a song where he could easily have been embarassed by contemporaries Jay-Z and Twista but which instead shows him holding it down nicely:

“Hittin ’em high, right in the ear
Slicin on ’em muh’fukker vampire style, I’m a bloodsucker
You turnin into a mad ducker, tellin ya dog
I’m at the Rucker with a bad Puerto Rican chick
Fat as my cash and she a dikk sucker, get up outcha car
You ain’t goin real far, see the chainsaw?
Breakin the law, like turnin a dyke
when it come to that man that just like Mike
I don’t care what you like, I’ll make you run in outer space
If you go to court man, only wish you got a case
For real, I’m fukkin faced on a hill of ice
Mag hot now nikka 50 G’s the price”


The most surprising thing about this album may be Timbaland himself – who has moved up from being a generic rapping producer to having an engaging and distinctive flow and personality. Ultimately this album encompasses such a wide variety of sounds it’s hard to encapsulate it in a few short sentences – everything from the laid back wind instrumental to the sorrows of fame on “People Like Myself” to the supercharged yet strangely minimalistic club anthem “Drop” featuring Fatman Scoop. By being completely unpredictable from one track to the next yet featuring at least a dozen songs which could be hit singles on their own (sadly the only one which might flop is the over-pretentious “I Am Music” featuring Aaliyah) Timbaland and his partner-in-rhyme Magoo score a big success. Even if Timbaland and Magoo weren’t your two favorite rappers you can’t deny the collaborative effort of this album for one reason: it, and they, are FUN to listen to.

Timbaland & Magoo :: Indecent Proposal – RapReviews
 

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Most MC's don't know Timbaland has beats like "Writin Rhymes" in his arsenal. So when he links with a Jadakiss, who makes songs to pander to different audiences, they are going to get a generic Timbaland beat as opposed to a top notch track that he'd give to Missy, Magoo, or Jay Z. There's also the fact that Timbaland came in helming albums, so when artists go to him for these one off tracks or a single, he's hit or miss.
yeah, i get that

if im Nas or Kiss and im paying crazy numbers for a Tim beat, im not taking a "writing rhymes"..im looking for the top 40 shyt
just as a Tim fan...its frustrating that some of his best work is tied to :francis: songs

like, even when he got with Lloyd Banks and gave him a :ohlawd: beat...they put that trash ass hook on it and tanked the song...how the fukk does that even happen with 50 Cent, one of the gods of hooks, in the studio?

shyt like that kills me :snoop:
 

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I don’t know where this notion that Magoo being called wack is some new shyt coming from. I remember in real time being :hhh: at that nikka raps.


This is a review from 2001 from some random ass dude. You can tell by his tone in this review that Magoo was definitely considered wack at that time.



The positive – an entire album produced by Timbaland. The uber-producer of the 20th and the 21st century, Timbaland has been the architect behind more hip-hop and R&B hits than can possibly be counted on all your fingers and toes. Even the songs he produced which aren’t hits have achieved a unique cult fandom in music, due to the fact he’s never afraid to do the strange or bizarre in order to create a new sound. Timbaland’s sonic landscape includes, but is not limited to, belly-dancing, disco funk, science fiction and good ol’ fashionedSOUL.

The negative – an entire album featuring Magoo. Few rappers have been the butt of as many jokes as this unfortunate MC whose voice is undeniably a dead-ringer for Q-Tip from A Tribe Called Quest. Loudly and often many of Timbaland’s fans AND critics have questioned why a rapper who is more likely to be a clone than Dolly the Sheep has been so prominently featured on Timbaland’s tracks. In many circles a strong opinion exists that Timbaland and Magoo’s album “Welcome to Our World” would have been a perfect album.. MINUS Magoo.

Although the dichotomy seems clear when analyzed in the abstract, the truth of both realities is somewhat more fuzzy. Timbaland is not God, and is therefore as fallible as any mortal when it comes to making duds. Although this album starts out strongly, it really bogs down in the middle with too many straight songs featuring Petey Pablo. The logic of this decision escapes me – it hurts both a good rapper and an excellent producer by presenting too much of the same in repeated doses. A break comes with the ironically titled “Roll Out”, which slows things down while Missy’s protege Tweet gets a chance to croon. (If the irony escaped you it’s that the lead single from Ludacris’ “Word of Mouf” has the same title, and was also produced by Timbaland.)

Magoo on the other hand is not nearly as wack as previously estimated. His basic steelo has not drastically changed, but his flow and the caliber of his lyrics seems much improved. On songs like “It’s Your Night” and “Considerate Brotha” featuring Ludacris he sounds pleasantly pimpish – slowing down his delivery and in doing so presents a much richer vocal tone. On songs like “All Y’all” the more familiar Magoo flow is in effect, but paired with alternating verses by Tweet his dreams of rags to riches sound sweet over Timbaland’s hypnotic beat. Give him the most credit for his rap on “Party People” though – a song where he could easily have been embarassed by contemporaries Jay-Z and Twista but which instead shows him holding it down nicely:

“Hittin ’em high, right in the ear
Slicin on ’em muh’fukker vampire style, I’m a bloodsucker
You turnin into a mad ducker, tellin ya dog
I’m at the Rucker with a bad Puerto Rican chick
Fat as my cash and she a dikk sucker, get up outcha car
You ain’t goin real far, see the chainsaw?
Breakin the law, like turnin a dyke
when it come to that man that just like Mike
I don’t care what you like, I’ll make you run in outer space
If you go to court man, only wish you got a case
For real, I’m fukkin faced on a hill of ice
Mag hot now nikka 50 G’s the price”


The most surprising thing about this album may be Timbaland himself – who has moved up from being a generic rapping producer to having an engaging and distinctive flow and personality. Ultimately this album encompasses such a wide variety of sounds it’s hard to encapsulate it in a few short sentences – everything from the laid back wind instrumental to the sorrows of fame on “People Like Myself” to the supercharged yet strangely minimalistic club anthem “Drop” featuring Fatman Scoop. By being completely unpredictable from one track to the next yet featuring at least a dozen songs which could be hit singles on their own (sadly the only one which might flop is the over-pretentious “I Am Music” featuring Aaliyah) Timbaland and his partner-in-rhyme Magoo score a big success. Even if Timbaland and Magoo weren’t your two favorite rappers you can’t deny the collaborative effort of this album for one reason: it, and they, are FUN to listen to.

Timbaland & Magoo :: Indecent Proposal – RapReviews
Holy hell I forgot these cats did a second album
 

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Trash is maybe a little harsh but no one was listening to Timbaland and Magoo albums for Magoo, I think that is safe to say.

With that said, Magoo was bearable on the second album and had moments almost like a great value Pimp C.
 

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YOU FUCCING SERIOUS, THAT GOT SOME OF THE REALEST BARS OF ALL TIME ON IT...
Sir. He was "up in the cut like gay nikkas in butt, black and Indian his race should be mutt" Dont get a brotha wrong it's still my jam, but the struggle was worthy of a Sally Strothers commercial. For 7 cents a day, you can support these bars out of the struggle.
 

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Sir. He was "up in the cut like gay nikkas in butt, black and Indian his race should be mutt" Dont get a brotha wrong it's still my jam, but the struggle was worthy of a Sally Strothers commercial. For 7 cents a day, you can support these bars out of the struggle.

It also got:

“Like Jews and Chinese, I own your rap lease”

“please please brotha don’t slam my car door/
It cost too much money to get that chit fixed/
I need all my money to pay my bills with”

“I’m in the Marriott, the place to get got”

“see a Black man dead, from a White Man’s powder
See a White Man scared, from a Black Man’s power”


They was kickin’ that REAL CHIT
 
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