Where did this narrative that Magoo was complete trash come from?
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ILLMMORTAL
THE ILLEST
U a ill nikka....shyt was indubitably WACK AS fukk!spliz
SplizThaDon
Even his name was wack. Magoo. Smh. Lol
BunchePark
Coli N Calisthenics
Yo is that the terror of tower at Universal?
Prolific postingI’m from where they argue all day about who’s the best mc’s Magoo, Jay Z, or Nas
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Right! I have literally never even seen or heard anyone argue otherwise until this thread.
Young cats trying to rewrite history without a pen
letti cook
Superstar
Absolute classic. One of my favorite beats of all time
And then Magoo comes in on the 2nd verse...
man, ive said this a few times on here...Tim has classic hip hop beats that get lost because of who's rapping over them
this is one of my favorite beats ever as well
i hate that he'll make shyt like this for Magoo but then get with Jadakiss and do some shyt like Good Girl
Absolute classic. One of my favorite beats of all time
And then Magoo comes in on the 2nd verse...
"Me Die For You??
Girl Go Dig your own Ditch
"
Read an interview with Magoo a while back where he talks a bit about the reason he wrote his lyrics the way he did. Long ass reply, bolded sections give you the key point he's trying to make. Not sure if I buy his voice limiting his options as far as lyrics go.
YouKnowIGotSoul: You always had those memorable one liners like “The bird is the word”. Talk about your creative process.
Magoo: It was intentional. I was a little rougher around the edges before, but as I got around Jodeci and learned more about the music industry along and then we got with Aaliyah’s uncle Barry Hankerson, I started to understand something about the music industry that I never would have got the opportunity to experience if I came out immediately. People always remember when you say certain things like “Whatchu talkin bout Willis?”. Gary Coleman was a child actor, but his career is remembered because of that one line. Biggie even put that line in his lyrics. Me and Timbaland had a conversation and he was like “You can either sell 200k or we can sell a million records, but you have to decide what that’s going to be”. If I just did that Hip Hop that I was doing that was just doing for the cats on the block, I don’t think anybody would know me at all. That’s what people don’t understand when they talk about me and I’ve heard about what people say about me. Just because a person comes out with a record a certain way, that doesn’t mean that who that person is. I chose that lane because I understood the industry. I would say stuff like “Wiggle a bit stop drop get up snake freak” because I wanted something kids could remember. I wasn’t trying to be a dope emcee. I could have been because when I was under Devante, I was getting so much better. Devante didn’t mind that because he loved the realness of Hip Hop. He didn’t care if you got in trouble because he was a street kind of dude in his mentality. It was okay to be like that in Da Bassment, but once I left that situation I realized “Maybe we would have been something like Death Row” but I didn’t feel like that was going to be a good lane for me with my light voice. I had to figure out where I fit and that’s where you got the catchphrases. I tried to have something in there that would make people remember what I said because I knew people forget rappers all the time. There are some dope rappers that were ten times better than me, but nobody knows they exist. I know they exist because I’m a Hip Hop head. My favorite rappers are not megastars. They aren’t as 2Pac or Big Daddy Kane. My favorite rappers are Joel Ortiz, Mad Skillz and Black Thought. KRS One is my favorite emcee of all time, but he doesn’t have a two million selling album. Very few emcees do numbers because Hip Hop was never about selling records. Hip Hop was about making songs you wanted to make so that your people could understand and relate to it. Hip Hop wasn’t about gold chains, that came as an after effect. I was always about that, but if I wanted to have some fans with my light voice and Barry Hankerson was like “I want every kid in America to like that”. I understood that because it was a business. Thank god I was around Jodeci and saw what record labels do to artists. The biggest mistake most artists make when they come into the game is they think this is for play. No, this is for real. If you don’t have a “bird is a word” that can last for 20 years, you’re in trouble. I remember when we did “Drop”, Tim didn’t really feel it. Me and his brother Sebastian felt that record and I did a verse on it first. He was like “Okay I see!”. I knew that record that had that thing about it. The only reason that song is successful is because of that track and Fatman Scoop on the hook. *Laughs* But you can hear when I said my line, I just wanted people to have a good time and party. That’s what my intentions were. If I wanted to be a dope emcee, I could have bodied a lot of people. I always had the lyrical ability, but I knew that is not what everyone needs to do. Everyone can’t be Black Thought. If everybody was like that, we would have a million Black Thoughts. He has that lane and I couldn’t do that because my voice was light. Somebody has to make the fun records and I knew I couldn’t go a certain way because of Q-Tip, I tried to find a way to get away from it as much as possible. I literally was trying to get away from that because I had so much respect for Tribe, so I had to be the happy rapper. It would have backfired if I tried any other way. The commercial success that Tim and I had allowed me to do three albums. We made fun records, but they weren’t corny. I don’t have any regrets. I liked the reaction I got from people that were fans. I didn’t get the street credibility that I got into Hip Hop for, but I felt if I could make people happy and have a good time, that was contributing to Hip Hop too but in a different way.
Interview was actually pretty interesting - Magoo Interview: Connecting With Timbaland, Reflecting On Da Bassment & Leaving Music Career Behind
YouKnowIGotSoul: You always had those memorable one liners like “The bird is the word”. Talk about your creative process.
Magoo: It was intentional. I was a little rougher around the edges before, but as I got around Jodeci and learned more about the music industry along and then we got with Aaliyah’s uncle Barry Hankerson, I started to understand something about the music industry that I never would have got the opportunity to experience if I came out immediately. People always remember when you say certain things like “Whatchu talkin bout Willis?”. Gary Coleman was a child actor, but his career is remembered because of that one line. Biggie even put that line in his lyrics. Me and Timbaland had a conversation and he was like “You can either sell 200k or we can sell a million records, but you have to decide what that’s going to be”. If I just did that Hip Hop that I was doing that was just doing for the cats on the block, I don’t think anybody would know me at all. That’s what people don’t understand when they talk about me and I’ve heard about what people say about me. Just because a person comes out with a record a certain way, that doesn’t mean that who that person is. I chose that lane because I understood the industry. I would say stuff like “Wiggle a bit stop drop get up snake freak” because I wanted something kids could remember. I wasn’t trying to be a dope emcee. I could have been because when I was under Devante, I was getting so much better. Devante didn’t mind that because he loved the realness of Hip Hop. He didn’t care if you got in trouble because he was a street kind of dude in his mentality. It was okay to be like that in Da Bassment, but once I left that situation I realized “Maybe we would have been something like Death Row” but I didn’t feel like that was going to be a good lane for me with my light voice. I had to figure out where I fit and that’s where you got the catchphrases. I tried to have something in there that would make people remember what I said because I knew people forget rappers all the time. There are some dope rappers that were ten times better than me, but nobody knows they exist. I know they exist because I’m a Hip Hop head. My favorite rappers are not megastars. They aren’t as 2Pac or Big Daddy Kane. My favorite rappers are Joel Ortiz, Mad Skillz and Black Thought. KRS One is my favorite emcee of all time, but he doesn’t have a two million selling album. Very few emcees do numbers because Hip Hop was never about selling records. Hip Hop was about making songs you wanted to make so that your people could understand and relate to it. Hip Hop wasn’t about gold chains, that came as an after effect. I was always about that, but if I wanted to have some fans with my light voice and Barry Hankerson was like “I want every kid in America to like that”. I understood that because it was a business. Thank god I was around Jodeci and saw what record labels do to artists. The biggest mistake most artists make when they come into the game is they think this is for play. No, this is for real. If you don’t have a “bird is a word” that can last for 20 years, you’re in trouble. I remember when we did “Drop”, Tim didn’t really feel it. Me and his brother Sebastian felt that record and I did a verse on it first. He was like “Okay I see!”. I knew that record that had that thing about it. The only reason that song is successful is because of that track and Fatman Scoop on the hook. *Laughs* But you can hear when I said my line, I just wanted people to have a good time and party. That’s what my intentions were. If I wanted to be a dope emcee, I could have bodied a lot of people. I always had the lyrical ability, but I knew that is not what everyone needs to do. Everyone can’t be Black Thought. If everybody was like that, we would have a million Black Thoughts. He has that lane and I couldn’t do that because my voice was light. Somebody has to make the fun records and I knew I couldn’t go a certain way because of Q-Tip, I tried to find a way to get away from it as much as possible. I literally was trying to get away from that because I had so much respect for Tribe, so I had to be the happy rapper. It would have backfired if I tried any other way. The commercial success that Tim and I had allowed me to do three albums. We made fun records, but they weren’t corny. I don’t have any regrets. I liked the reaction I got from people that were fans. I didn’t get the street credibility that I got into Hip Hop for, but I felt if I could make people happy and have a good time, that was contributing to Hip Hop too but in a different way.
Interview was actually pretty interesting - Magoo Interview: Connecting With Timbaland, Reflecting On Da Bassment & Leaving Music Career Behind