Whenever a song by that clique of bay area rappers came on Rap City it was channel switch on sight

[FruitOfTheVale]

Except Chicago bop has black people in it.

15 years ago when Hyphy was popping off blacks were the largest plurality in oakland at 35% of the population.

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

It doesn't. The media just tells you that it does. You're using the media to help your argument. Go to Baltimore and it's no question a bigger hip hop and culture scene.

nikka please

Baltimore is unquestionably a bigger center of BLACK CULTURE which you again conflate with Hip Hop culture.

WTF! You're off something serious. Hip Hop did originate with us don't let the media lie to you. Other races would throw rocks at radio Raheem in real life.

It originated with Carribeans of African descent. They happened to live in the same neighborhoods as us in New York and it became a part of our culture in NYC shortly after.

Bullshyt. The SFBA is the richest area in the country. Poverty and crime in the SFBA is a myth. In reality all of the negative numbers are low and the positive numbers are high.

Stand on any corner in the Deep East, the Noya or the Point and see how much of a myth it is bruh. All of the above are being gentrified as we speak, it ain't an overnight process though.

 

[MN Fats]

....i wore the fuk outta 187 he wrote and In a Major way back in the day.

 

[Doomsday]

nikka please

Baltimore is unquestionably a bigger center of BLACK CULTURE which you again conflate with Hip Hop culture.

Same difference.

It originated with Carribeans of African descent. They happened to live in the same neighborhoods as us in New York and it became a part of our culture in NYC shortly after.

Drum & Bass is an African invention. Using it as main instrumentation in a song is a black concept. Racially all descendants of African diaspora beefed with all races, especially in New York.

Stand on any corner in the Deep East, the Noya or the Point and see how much of a myth it is bruh. All of the above are being gentrified as we speak, it ain't an overnight process though.

I've done all those things recently and continue to do them when the opportunity presents itself. The last time I was in HP I saw a cac walking his dog with a louie collar at sun set.

 

[mobbinfms]

Baltimore ITSELF is around 60% black. There isn't a major city in the bay area that's still majority black. Y'all also don't have a non-rap black dance music scene like all culturally relevant black cities have.

Oakland wasn't a culturally relevant black city?

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

Same difference.

Prove it then, point to the Hip Hop culture emanating out of Baltimore. Point to the thriving Hip Hop dance culture in Baltimore, point to the thriving Hip Hop music culture in Baltimore.

Drum & Bass is an African invention. Using it as main instrumentation in a song is a black concept. Racially all descendants of African diaspora beefed with all races, especially in New York.

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Are you from New York? Care to speak on why the VAST majority of "black" New York rappers and DJs are Dominican/Jamaican/Trinidadian/Puerto Rican? Again, why is it that huge sections of the black diaspora (especially in the South) have little to nothing invested in Hip Hop but every major urban center in America does?

I've done all those things recently and continue to do them when the opportunity presents itself. The last time I was in HP I saw a cac walking his dog with a louie collar at sun set.

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The last time I was in North Philly I saw well-off white people biking up and down N. Broad Street and I don't mean the poor white Kensington natives. What's your point?

 

[mobbinfms]

Oakland and Richmond went from a segregated majority (47% in the 80's and 43% in the early 90's) to what is now. Majority non-black and integrated.

So you're saying there are no neighborhoods in Oakland and Richmond that are majority black today? That's what you mean by integrated?

 

[mobbinfms]

VA rapper skills contributed ghostwriting to many songs like VA rapper nickelus f helped drake out.
Bay area rappers sell records to bay area people, kc weirdos, and a few people in akron, ohio.

Too Short went Platinum 6 times. That was all Bay Area, KC and Akron? Receipts?

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Oakland wasn't a culturally relevant black city?

I'm talking about NOW...and it was, but it damn sure ain't.
How come Oakland doesn't have a black dance music style outside of rap?
Chicago does. Detroit does. DC does. Miami does. ATL does. Baltimore does. New Orleans does. It's just strange. Those areas also put out shyt everybody liked everywhere. The bay? Acquired taste. Local shyt. Sounds local.

 

[mobbinfms]

So you isolate 33,000 people and it's STILL not majority black. LOL!

Oh yeah you're right Chicago has only 2.6 million instead of 5, I was wrong. My point still stands though.

It was majority black in the 80s and 90s though. Along with the Western Addition. So my point that there were neighborhoods in the Bay Area that were majority black or close to it stands.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Too Short went Platinum 6 times. That was all Bay Area, KC and Akron? Receipts?

I'm talking about NOW.
who listens to bay area now besides y'all...kansas nikkas, and people in akron? Nobody needs receipts for that, it's known. Bay to kc pipeline...and some akron nikkas fukk w/ it, too....because of Ampichino, an akron nikka.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

So you're saying there are no neighborhoods in Oakland and Richmond that are majority black today? That's what you mean by integrated?

there are very few...and majority black meaning no gentrification. detroit level blackness doesn't exist anywhere in cali, neighborhood or city wise.

 

[mobbinfms]

15 years ago when Hyphy was popping off blacks were the largest plurality in oakland at 35% of the population.

Not to mention if you dig deeper and go to neighborhood demographics.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Prove it then, point to the Hip Hop culture emanating out of Baltimore. Point to the thriving Hip Hop dance culture in Baltimore, point to the thriving Hip Hop music culture in Baltimore.

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Are you from New York? Care to speak on why the VAST majority of "black" New York rappers and DJs are Dominican/Jamaican/Trinidadian/Puerto Rican? Again, why is it that huge sections of the black diaspora (especially in the South) have little to nothing invested in Hip Hop but every major urban center in America does?

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The last time I was in North Philly I saw well-off white people biking up and down N. Broad Street and I don't mean the poor white Kensington natives. What's your point?

Bmore club music is international now.
jersey jacked it...it's part of Dance music culture and spread outside of the baltimore area into the northern new jersey metro, 2-3 hrs away.
mind you, the east coast isn't like the west coast at all...

 

[Michael's Black Son]

LMAFOOOO @ the thread premise