Whenever a song by that clique of bay area rappers came on Rap City it was channel switch on sight

Larry Lambo

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I can't vibe with this Hammer slander.

He made music that people liked, just like Drake makes music people like now.
 

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Is there any large metropolitan area anywhere where that isn't true?

Yeah. Detroit, Baltimore and Memphis, for example.

Are you saying there weren't/aren't majority black neighborhoods/cities?
There were for a short period in two cities, but that's it.

I agree in principle. What is the required percentage? That's what you're getting at right
Percentage is a major contributing factor but it's also the way that percentage is presented and distributed. Chicago for example is 33% which is a pretty healthy number but on the lower end still. However, Chicago being segregated helps raise the presentation of the 33% to being more culturally relevant than if the same number was scattered about. Also it's 33% of a city of 5 million, so it's a lot of black folk anyway. Dallas is 1 out of 4 (25%) and it's also segregated which factors in.

SFBA as a whole is 6% black AND integrated on top of that. So culturally it's extremely weak in comparison, even if you could compare the raw numbers.

You haven't provided any receipts for any of this.

You want me to @ the posters individually? Lol, they know who they are.
 

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Do you see me sitting here calling Magoo a legend or vouching for his legacy like some are doing with Hammer? Up Jumps Da Boogie was a banger though.

Instead of worrying about Magoo, you and the rest of your allies in this thread need to be apologizing to the rest of the world for V-Nasty and the White Girl Mob.

Getting to the real point, your biggest point about Hammer is that he pushed Hip Hop into a heavily pop direction...

... As opposed to anti-pop entities like Timbaland and the Neptunes. :mjlol: Skillz is the only rapper out of VA with any kind of name who ever truly represented for the culture. If you really want to keep this conversation Hip Hop in any kind of purist light, who are VA's answers for

Hieroglyphics
Hobo Junction
The Coup
Dan The Automator
Paris
Sway & King Tech
Zion I
Conscious Daughters
Equipto
Rasco
Locksmith
Living Legends

And the literal dozens of other Bay Area Hip Hop acts that put on for the culture?
 

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Yeah. Detroit, Baltimore and Memphis, for example.
Post the numbers. And a link to the source.
And the Baltimore METROPOLITAN area would include Baltimore County, Carroll County, Harford County, Anne Arundel County and Howard County. Howard and Anne Arundel are also considered DC suburbs. It's complicated.
What are the numbers for the Baltimore metro area and a source?
 

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west coast was cool but i threw rap city in the trash when the no limit era hit

i tapped out at "make em say uhh"
 

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SFBA as a whole is 6% black AND integrated on top of that.
I assume you are talking about nowadays?
What about in the 90s? There were no majority black neighborhoods (in other words, segregated) in Oakland, San Francisco or Richmond?
 
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Post the numbers. And a link to the source.
And the Baltimore METROPOLITAN area would include Baltimore County, Carroll County, Harford County, Anne Arundel County and Howard County. Howard and Anne Arundel are also considered DC suburbs. It's complicated.
What are the numbers for the Baltimore metro area and a source?
@MrMime
According to this website, the Baltimore Metro area is 28% black.
Baltimore Metro Area - Rankings and Statistics - Niche
 
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Too $hort and E-40 are the only two out of that group I even know. Straight up East Coast and Down South for me :feedme:
 

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Chicago for example is 33% which is a pretty healthy number but on the lower end still. However, Chicago being segregated helps raise the presentation of the 33% to being more culturally relevant than if the same number was scattered about. Also it's 33% of a city of 5 million, so it's a lot of black folk anyway.
According to Wikipedia, Chicago only has 2.6 million people. I think you are conflating city and metropolitan area numbers to suit your argument.

As of the 2010 census,[1] there were 2,695,598 people with 1,045,560 households residing within Chicago. More than half the population of the state of Illinois lives in the Chicago metropolitan area. Chicago is also one of the US's most densely populated major cities. The racial composition of the city was:

 
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