Whenever a song by that clique of bay area rappers came on Rap City it was channel switch on sight

[mobbinfms]

There were for a short period in two cities, but that's it.

Wikipedia on Bayview Hunters Point in SF.

According to the 2010 U.S. Census, Bayview-Hunters Point (ZIP 94124) had a population of 33,996, an increase of 826 from 2000. The census data showed the single-race racial composition of Bayview-Hunters Point was 33.7% African-American, 30.7% Asian (22.1% Chinese, 3.1% Filipino, 2.9% Vietnamese, 0.4% Cambodian, 0.3% Indian, 0.2% Burmese, 0.2% Korean, 0.2% Japanese, 0.2% Pakistani, 0.1% Laotian), 12.1% White, 3.2% Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander (2.4% Samoan, 0.1% Tongan, 0.1% Native Hawaiian), 0.7% Native American, 15.1% other, and 5.1% mixed race. Of Bayview's population, 24.9% was of Hispanic or Latino origin, of any race (11.5% Mexican, 4.2% Salvadoran, 2.6% Guatemalan, 1.4% Honduran, 1.4% Nicaraguan, 0.7% Puerto Rican, 0.2% Peruvian, 0.2% Spanish, 0.2% Spaniard, 0.1% Colombian, 0.1% Cuban, 0.1% Panamanian).[24]

According to the 2010 U.S. Census, Bayview-Hunters Point had the highest percentage of African-Americans among San Francisco neighborhoods, home to 21.5% of the city's Black population, and was the predominant ethnic group in the Bayview. Census figures showed the percentage of African-Americans in Bayview declined from 48% in 2000 to 33.7% in 2010, while the percentage of Asian and White ethnicity increased from 24% and 10%, respectively, to 30.7% and 12.1%. However the eastern part of the neighborhood had a population of 12,308 and is still roughly 53% African-American.

According to the 2005-2009 American Community Survey (ACS), the Bayview district is estimated to have 10,540 housing units and an estimated owner-occupancy rate of 51%. The 2010 U.S. Census indicates the number of households to be 9,717, of which 155 belong to same-sex couples. Median home values were estimated in 2009 to be $586,201,[4] but that has since fallen dramatically to around $367,000 in 2011, the lowest of any of San Francisco's ZIP code areas.[25] Median Household Income was estimated in 2009 at $43,155.[4] Rent prices in the Bayview remain relatively low, by San Francisco standards, with over 50% of rents paid in 2009 at less than $750/mo.[26]

A recent Brookings Institution report identified Hunters Point as one of five Bay Area "extreme poverty" neighborhoods, in which over 40% of the inhabitants live below the Federal poverty level of an income of $22,300 for a family of four.[27] Nearly 12% of the population in the Bayview receives public assistance income, three times the national average, and more than double the state average. While the Bayview has a higher percentage of the population receiving either Social Security or retirement income than the state or national averages, the dollar amounts that these people receive is less than the averages in either the state or the nation.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

@MrMime
According to this website, the Baltimore Metro area is 28% black.
Baltimore Metro Area - Rankings and Statistics - Niche

Baltimore ITSELF is around 60% black. There isn't a major city in the bay area that's still majority black. Y'all also don't have a non-rap black dance music scene like all culturally relevant black cities have.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Lol continue to sidestep anything brought up that doesn't have to do with Hammer. In case you forgot...

VA rapper skills contributed ghostwriting to many songs like VA rapper nickelus f helped drake out.
Bay area rappers sell records to bay area people, kc weirdos, and a few people in akron, ohio.

 

[mobbinfms]

More on HP
During this time of demographic decline among the city’s African American population, Bayview Hunters Point has emerged as the district with the largest African American population. Between 1980 and 1990, the number of African Americans living in Bayview grew from 15,769 to 17,395 – the only district in the city to experience an absolute increase in the size of its African American population during this time period. By 1990, Bayview Hunters Point had effectively replaced the Western Addition as the center of San Francisco’s African American population, as the Western Addition’s African American population dropped from 18,551 to 14,279 between 1980 and 1990. By the time of the 2000 Census, Bayview’s African American population decreased slightly to 15,922.

Although Bayview Hunters Point has emerged as the center of San Francisco’s African American community, the economic status of this role is tenuous at best. The number of African Americans living in Bayview increased in absolute size between 1980 and 1990, but decreased as a percentage of all Bayview residents from 73% to 62%. The 2000 Census indicated that this figure has since dropped to 48%. More importantly, other quality of life indicators have showed downward trends since 1980. From 1980 to 1990, home ownership rates declined by 8% in the district as a whole, and by more than 10% among African American households, from 57% to 45%. Home ownership rates for Bayview’s African American households remained relatively steady between 1990 and 2000, dropping two percentage points during that time period. In the decade from 1980 to 1990, the percentage of persons living in poverty in Bayview increased from 25% to roughly 30%, local unemployment doubled from 5.5% to over 10%, and the percentage of female headed households increased from 31% to over 40%. The 2000 Census, however, indicates that some of these downward trends are slowing or even reversing to some degree. From 1990 to 2000, Bayview’s poverty rate fell by almost 20% while the local unemployment rate dropped over 50%. During the same time period, the percentage of family households headed by females remained relatively constant.

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

Yeah. Detroit, Baltimore and Memphis, for example.

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There were for a short period in two cities, but that's it.

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Percentage is a major contributing factor but it's also the way that percentage is presented and distributed. Chicago for example is 33% which is a pretty healthy number but on the lower end still. However, Chicago being segregated helps raise the presentation of the 33% to being more culturally relevant than if the same number was scattered about. Also it's 33% of a city of 5 million, so it's a lot of black folk anyway. Dallas is 1 out of 4 (25%) and it's also segregated which factors in.

SFBA as a whole is 6% black AND integrated on top of that. So culturally it's extremely weak in comparison, even if you could compare the raw numbers.

You're effectively making an argument that a city's Hip Hop presence directly corresponds to its black presence. Here's the problem... Where has that ever been proven to be true? Are you seriously going to argue that Baltimore is a bigger Hip Hop epicenter than the Bay Area? Why aren't there huge thriving Hip Hop scenes in South Carolina, Mississippi, Virginia, etc. despite that these states have black populations at or above 20% of the total? Michigan, Florida and California all have comparable black populations to these states with California actually having the largest by total population (2.6 million). Why is it that the latter three states all have far larger Hip Hop scenes - and more of them - than the other three?

If anything, the "strength" of a Hip Hop scene most strongly corresponds to how urban the area is... Hip Hop is a fundamentally urban culture. It technically didn't originate with us (African Americans) but it RESONATED with us because the urban experience of poverty, violence, incarceration, etc. is commonly shared. In reality the culture has more to do with the issues that face us than it does specifically with us.

The Bay Area may have lost a huge share of its black population but urban poverty didn't go anywhere (yet).

 

[MrFettuccinnePockets]

Bay Area back in the day»»»»»» All them other citys you talkin bout

 

[Doomsday]

Numbers and source.

Bay Area Census -- City of Oakland -- 1970-1990 Census data

Oakland and Richmond went from a segregated majority (47% in the 80's and 43% in the early 90's) to what is now. Majority non-black and integrated. From what I saw it has to be 10-15% at best once the new census comes out. I imagine a lot of biracial and confused albinos check black on the paper.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Do the knowledge and pay respect..... KID Bay Area invented the remote control stupid

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

Baltimore ITSELF is around 60% black. There isn't a major city in the bay area that's still majority black. Y'all also don't have a non-rap black dance music scene like all culturally relevant black cities have.

If anything Hyphy was a Bay Area black dance music scene, it technically was a subgenre of the Bay Area rap scene but in real life out here it was music for parties and functions with a dance culture (turfin) centered around it. It was pretty much the Bay Area equivalent of Chicago Bop.

 

[Doomsday]

Wikipedia on Bayview Hunters Point in SF.

So you isolate 33,000 people and it's STILL not majority black. LOL!

Oh yeah you're right Chicago has only 2.6 million instead of 5, I was wrong. My point still stands though.

 

[NZA]

i really liked some of their stuff. in their day they kept it funky, but hyphy was straight trash

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

So you isolate 33,000 people and it's STILL not majority black. LOL!

Oh yeah you're right Chicago has only 2.6 million instead of 5, I was wrong. My point still stands though.

What is your point in regards to Hip Hop though? Detroit has a bigger Hip Hop scene than Chicago and has for a long time despite having a black population that's 1/4 of Chicago's.

 

[Doomsday]

If anything Hyphy was a Bay Area black dance music scene, it technically was a subgenre of the Bay Area rap scene but in real life out here it was music for parties and functions with a dance culture (turfin) centered around it. It was pretty much the Bay Area equivalent of Chicago Bop.

Except Chicago bop has black people in it.

 

[Kimo_bud]

nikka , too short is a legend..coli gettin wack as fukk lately

 

[Doomsday]

You're effectively making an argument that a city's Hip Hop presence directly corresponds to its black presence. Here's the problem... Where has that ever been proven to be true? Are you seriously going to argue that Baltimore is a bigger Hip Hop epicenter than the Bay Area? Why aren't there huge thriving Hip Hop scenes in South Carolina, Mississippi, Virginia, etc. despite that these states have black populations at or above 20% of the total? Michigan, Florida and California all have comparable black populations to these states with California actually having the largest by total population (2.6 million). Why is it that the latter three states all have far larger Hip Hop scenes - and more of them - than the other three?

It doesn't. The media just tells you that it does. You're using the media to help your argument. Go to Baltimore and it's no question a bigger hip hop and culture scene.

If anything, the "strength" of a Hip Hop scene most strongly corresponds to how urban the area is... Hip Hop is a fundamentally urban culture. It technically didn't originate with us (African Americans) but it RESONATED with us because the urban experience of poverty, violence, incarceration, etc. is commonly shared. In reality the culture has more to do with the issues that face us than it does specifically with us.

WTF! You're off something serious. Hip Hop did originate with us don't let the media lie to you. Other races would throw rocks at radio Raheem in real life.

The Bay Area may have lost a huge share of its black population but urban poverty didn't go anywhere (yet).

Bullshyt. The SFBA is the richest area in the country. Poverty and crime in the SFBA is a myth. In reality all of the negative numbers are low and the positive numbers are high.