Whenever a song by that clique of bay area rappers came on Rap City it was channel switch on sight

[mobbinfms]

Hammer had influence alright. His influence was a dark warning and a cautionary tale of how shallow, vapid, and flat-out terrible hip-hop could potentially be, and he along with Vanilla Ice defined the word "selllout."

Hammer to this day is synonymous with wackness. When hip-hop heads think of Hammer, they don't think of classic records or a skilled emcee. They think of garbage pop music, selling out and genie pants.

You're not winning this argument by trying to throw some armor-all on the steaming pile of shyt that is Hammer's hip-hop legacy.

Says the breh posting Magoo videos

 

[R-Typ3]

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

@Mephistopheles the real reason why posters reppin' the bay go so hard is because 9/10 of them are non-black, and the demographics of the bay is majority non-black. Hip Hop culture and black culture in the bay in general is weak, so they use the bay area music scene as an IN or justification to be apart of our culture. The same way they pretend the demographics of Oakland is the same as it was in the Black Panther era.

Indisputable facts are dumb? Please explain, even though we know you can't.

The black presence in the Bay Area is a pale shadow of what it used to be even 15-20 years ago, who disputes that? Which posters are you talking about?

 

[Doomsday]

Claim the Bay Area is irrelevant but be familiar with Oakland's demographics going back decades brehs.

You just said the SFBA was irrelevant, I never stated that. I stated that everyone pretends that Oakland is still a majority black city in 2016 (as a result of southern migration over 50 years ago). It isn't, and hasn't been for awhile, yet everyone pretends that it is. Just like everyone pretends the bay in general isn't only 6% black. The Bay Area hasn't and will never be a huge staple in Hip Hop because it doesn't have the proper demographics to back it up.

But I'll let you wannabe blacks and biracial continue your schizophrenia.

 

[Doomsday]

The black presence in the Bay Area is a pale shadow of what it used to be even 15-20 years ago, who disputes that? Which posters are you talking about?

There's another thread where I argued with a white boi and an albino broad about it.

If you acknowledge that what I said was accurate, how can you then accuse what I stated as dumb?

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Says the breh posting Magoo videos

Do you see me sitting here calling Magoo a legend or vouching for his legacy like some are doing with Hammer? Up Jumps Da Boogie was a banger though.

Instead of worrying about Magoo, you and the rest of your allies in this thread need to be apologizing to the rest of the world for V-Nasty and the White Girl Mob.

 

[mobbinfms]

You just said the SFBA was irrelevant, I never stated that.

The Bay Area hasn't and will never be a huge staple in Hip Hop

Same difference.
I haven't lived in the Bay Area in almost 15 years. I don't know what the demographics are now. I didn't know what they were then.
What are the proper demographics?

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

There's another thread where I argued with a white boi and an albino broad about it.

If you acknowledge that what I said was accurate, how can you then accuse what I stated as dumb?

Your comment about Bay Area posters using the Hip Hop scene as part of an agenda to make the Bay Area seem more black is dumb.

 

[Rollo Goodlove]

nikka THE BAY nikkaS WAS THE FIRST ONE SAYING BREH

 

[Jimi Swagger]

 

[mobbinfms]

Do you see me sitting here calling Magoo a legend or vouching for his legacy like some are doing with Hammer? Up Jumps Da Boogie was a banger though.

Instead of worrying about Magoo, you and the rest of your allies in this thread need to be apologizing to the rest of the world for V-Nasty and the White Girl Mob.

I agree with you that Hammer was wack.
The Bay had an amazing scene in the early to mid 90s though. Great producers. And everybody was nice on the mic too.
We had our own sound. That's what hip hop should be about.
You can dislike the production but you really think Mac Mall or Dru Down were wack rappers?

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

Hammer had influence alright. His influence was a dark warning and a cautionary tale of how shallow, vapid, and flat-out terrible hip-hop could potentially be, and he along with Vanilla Ice defined the word "selllout."

Hammer to this day is synonymous with wackness. When hip-hop heads think of Hammer, they don't think of classic records or a skilled emcee. They think of garbage pop music, selling out and genie pants.

You're not going to fare well in any argument by trying to throw some armor-all on the steaming pile of shyt that is Hammer's hip-hop legacy.

Lol continue to sidestep anything brought up that doesn't have to do with Hammer. In case you forgot...

Speak for yourself bruh bruh, whether you like bay rap or not is irrelevant to the topic of impact, influence and presence. MC Hammer alone had a bigger impact on Hip Hop than your entire region whether you like it or not bruh bruh rofl. You don't even need to bring up Bay Area rap to talk about it's influence, No Limit Records was birthed out here in Richmond California and the entire independent blueprint Master P made an empire from was taken directly from here. The majority of the early label releases were produced by EA Ski and even when he moved out the Bay his label continued to work with Bay producers like Ant Banks and Studio Ton. The entire wave of southern Hip Hop that dominated the late 90s and early 2000s was rooted OUT HERE.

Whether Hammer is garbage or not, the reality is that he's had more influence on the genre than any of the people from VA you named. Period.

In reality the onus to "make a case" is entirely on you. Name a single rapper out of VA with 1/10 the influence of Too Short... I'll wait. For that matter, name a single rapper from Virginia that ever went platinum. Name a single relevant Hip Hop label that ever came out of VA.

 

[Doomsday]

Same difference.

If you say so.

I haven't lived in the Bay Area in almost 15 years. I don't know what the demographics are now. I didn't know what they were then.

Largely non-black in 2001. Same as now.

What are the proper demographics?

How can you be or have hip hop culture and the actual culture that houses it isn't present?

Your comment about Bay Area posters using the Hip Hop scene as part of an agenda to make the Bay Area seem more black is dumb.

It's true though. These posters are trying to convice us that the bay area is strong with black culture yet almost all the people arguing the facts aren't even black themselves? Lol! That isn't hilariously ironic to you?

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

It's true though. These posters are trying to convice us that the bay area is strong with black culture yet almost all the people arguing the facts aren't even black themselves? Lol! That isn't hilariously ironic to you?

You haven't provided any receipts for any of this.

 

[mobbinfms]

Largely non-black in 2001. Same as now.

Is there any large metropolitan area anywhere where that isn't true?
Are you saying there weren't/aren't majority black neighborhoods/cities?

How can you be or have hip hop culture and the actual culture that houses it isn't present?

I agree in principle. What is the required percentage? That's what you're getting at right?