"When You Really Wanna Fight Someone, The Fight Gets Done" Wilder v Fury 12/1 SHOWTIME PPV Thread

[MasterOfAllHeSurveyz]

but a wilder positive...you really can't allow this motherfukker to hit you with any punch from his right hand..its ridiculous how much his wiry motherfukker hits and nearly kills nikkas as big as him or bigger with it

Teddy can explain it better than me. That's MFer can punch.



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I didn't get to watch the fight live. I had Fury winning 8 to 4 (114-112). I'm still BombZquad though.

P.S. fukk drunk driving white bytches.

 

[gangreen]

thats a thing..why the fukk is wilder coming in so light for a heavy for a cat his height? esp against tyson fury...i mean he can be effective being around 220-225

When was Wilder ever fighting in the 240lbs? 212 was probably too light but high teens-220s is where he should be, he doesn't carry around a lot of extra weight.

Maybe he doesnt feel right at that 220 weight range.

Maybe at the 210-215, he feels better and therefore moves better cause he is more cognizant of the level of the competition he has been facing lately (i.e. Ortiz and Fury, who are counter punchers, technically sound and who have an offensive repetoire and therefore he needs to be more athletic to avoid punches).

I think, All Deontay has as a trump card is that right hand and he is looking for any added advantage that is not god-given and learned through training and repetition since a fighter was a small child.


Just imagine how lethal he would be if he learned those technical skills to be an effective counter puncher.

 

[I AM WE ARE]

dude has undeniable power I give Him that

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

thats a thing..why the fukk is wilder coming in so light for a heavy for a cat his height? esp against tyson fury...i mean he can be effective being around 220-225

Wilder going for speed and explosiveness, but you shouldn't be lighter than Chris Bryd when you 6'7.

 

[I AM WE ARE]

Maybe he doesnt feel right at that 220 weight range.

Maybe at the 210-215, he feels better and therefore moves better cause he is more cognizant of the level of the competition he has been facing lately (i.e. Ortiz and Fury, who are counter punchers, technically sound and who have an offensive repetoire and therefore he needs to be more athletic to avoid punches).

I think, All Deontay has as a trump card is that right hand and he is looking for any added advantage that is not god-given and learned through training and repetition since a fighter was a small child.


Just imagine how lethal he would be if he learned those technical skills to be an effective counter puncher.

imagine him with cus(rip) or Stewart

 

[Yuzo]

imagine him with cus(rip) or Stewart

steward would shorten up and straighten out his right hand. make him really jab. not just put his arm out there like a jab. futch would get him countering, and, i think, give him a clean up hook to throw off of his right hand, so its not just a 1,2 its a 1,2,3. steward would make him do less. futch would make him do more. cus wouldnt know what to do with a guy like wilder.

 

[u mad son?]

Good fight, I ain't paid for a PPV since? I don't regret supporting for these two warriors. Fury showed and proved he amazed me. People crying "Robbery" need to rewatch the fight and mute the commentary, secondly, if this was a robbery Fury would have complained based on his personality, round 1,3, the 1st knockdown and the last knockdown saved him as he was losing most of the rounds. It appears that Fury isn't eager to fight Wilder straightaway possibly we could get another fight in summer, I think Wilder will deal with Breeazeal. Wilder has a lot to learn and fukk that soar loser Ben Davies.

He was being the better man by not crying about the decision, if he kicked off there would have been 1000's of gypsies and british tearing the fukking stadium apart.

If you watch his interviews with IFL TV after the fight, he said it was one of the biggest robberies of all time and that the judges need to be fired.

Mayweather walked out of the stadium in disgust at the decision.

This is a robbery of huge proportions not matter which way you look at it.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Do we give props to coach roach for Fury's gameplan?

 

[Perfectson]

Boxing judging is down to 4 factors

clean punching
effective aggression
ring generalship
defense

Fury got these in most of the rounds, especially ring generalship and defense but he landed the cleaner, crispier shots too aside of the KD rounds and maybe the first 2 rounds (especially the second).
Effective aggression could have gone to Wilder if he would have been actually effective with it in the rounds he didn't score KD.

While I don't think a 113-113 is a robbery I think it is not the right call and it's the possibly most generous verdict for Wilder and even at that it's a bit of a stretch. There is no case of Wilder winning more than 5 rounds, if someone really tells me that this was a fight where they won equal number of rounds we haven't watched the same fight. Fury outboxed him fair and square from round 3 except for the KD rounds and if you want to snuck in 1 Wilder round there other than those than do it and call it a draw it's not a terrible card but personally I disagree, imo aside of those first 2 swing rounds it was a pretty easy fight to score.

Possible scores range from 116-110 Fury (if you gave all swing rounds to Fury) to 114-112 (if you gave both swing rounds to Wilder) with 113-113 joining them as a bit of a stretch (not inconceivable but very generous to Wilder). Round 3 and 4 were not swing to me, Fury started to outbox him pretty clearly from round 3.

Personally had it 115-111 Fury with giving Fury one of the swing rounds (round 1) and giving the other to Wilder (round 2) and from then Wilder only won the rounds where he KD Fury

Well I do think judges are placed at different angles, and they do not have a camera with multiple angles or replay. Not excusing the bad scorecard but there needs to be a overhaul and perhaps judges shouldn't be at ringside

 

[patscorpio]

cus wouldnt know what to do with a guy like wilder.

imagining a 6'7 nikka doing a peek a boo style lol

 

[MasterOfAllHeSurveyz]

He was being the better man by not crying about the decision, if he kicked off there would have been 1000's of gypsies and british tearing the fukking stadium apart.

If you watch his interviews with IFL TV after the fight, he said it was one of the biggest robberies of all time and that the judges need to be fired.

Mayweather walked out of the stadium in disgust at the decision.

This is a robbery of huge proportions not matter which way you look at it.

It wasn't a robbery. Two knockdowns in two different rounds is the equivalent of losing four rounds. Add two rounds in Wilder's favor and you have my score.

Fury score:
8 Fury Rounds (80 - 8 times 10 points)
2 Wilder Rounds (18 - 2 times 9 points)
2 Wilder KD Rounds (16 - 2 times 8 points)

= 114

Wilder score:
8 Fury Rounds (72 - 8 times 9 points)
2 Wilder Rounds (20 - 2 times 10 points)
2 Wilder KD Rounds (20 - 2 times 10 points)

= 112

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Quillin dropped N'Dam 6x and only won the decision by 115-107........Imagine dropping somebody that many times and still only reach 115 on the scorecards. Wilder drops Fury twice and loses mad rounds and still gets to 115 on a judge's card

Meanwhile Pac dropped, dribbled, and barrel rolled Algieri like 6x and won the decision by 120-102 and 119-103

Moral of the story, you just can't be dropping nikkas repeatedly and thinking you banking rounds if the nikka you drop keeps getting up to outbox your ass.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

ponce was my nikka... im going to allow this criticism..but ponce was a beast in his prime

I was a fan since I saw him fight on telemundo when he was just starting.

 

[u mad son?]

It wasn't a robbery. Two knockdowns in two different rounds is the equivalent of losing four rounds. Add two rounds in Wilder's favor and you have my score.

Fury score:
8 Fury Rounds (80 - 8 times 10 points)
2 Wilder Rounds (18 - 2 times 9 points)
2 Wilder KD Rounds (16 - 2 times 8 points)

= 114

Wilder score:
8 Fury Rounds (72 - 8 times 9 points)
2 Wilder Rounds (20 - 2 times 10 points)
2 Wilder KD Rounds (20 - 2 times 10 points)

= 112

Even by your theory the decision is still a robbery

Even though fury got knocked down in the 12th he got up and outclassed wilder for the rest of the round so how's that score?

2 knockdowns vs being outclassed and schooled for the whole fight . . Hmmm

The first knockdown didn't even hurt Tyson, he went down tactically cos he was off balance and would have got clocked again if he tried staying up.

I don't care what way u look at this fight .. Those two knockdowns ain't shyt compared to furys performance the whole fight

 

[u mad son?]

Well I do think judges are placed at different angles, and they do not have a camera with multiple angles or replay. Not excusing the bad scorecard but there needs to be a overhaul and perhaps judges shouldn't be at ringside

Mad pro boxers be ringside or close to it and still had the fight to fury. We need ex pro boxers judging the fights, who better qualified ??