When you go back and watch Scarface and Carlito's Way, it really is like night and day with how Carlito's Way is the better movie

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Scarface is more popular and iconic but I definitely agree that Carlito’s Way was a better film.

The part where Carlito has the chase scene in the train station is more entertaining than any scene in Scarface :ld:

The chase at the train station and the pool scene when he gets out are brilliant scenes.

I also like the prison escape attempt in the boat. Sean Penn was terrific in that role.
 

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You have to take in consideration the time and era

Scarface was 80's excess, and De Palma's height as a bad boy of cinema or whatever, he was coming of Dressed To Kill, right? And Did Body Double right after. He was chasing those highs of violence, sex, in a word, excess. It was the 80's. The themes are greed, violence, capitalism, it's a swing for the fences movie. It's big, ugly, larger than life in every moment.

A little off-topic but I want to recommend De Palma’s ‘Blow Out’, which was done a couple years before Scarface.
 
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Recently watched both these films back to back cause i've been going back and watching some of De Palma's films again

Scarface was like a b movie with unintentional comedy :mjlol:

only thing i'll give Scarface props for is the dialogue/screenplay Oliver Stone wrote for it, he was a great screenwriter in his heyday.

but Scarface reminds me of one those low budget ass movies you'd see back in the 90's on a Saturday on a non cable channel and you'd watch out of boredom


Carlito's Way takes a huge shyt on Scarface in every way.

De Palma and Pachino got it right with Carlito's Way; the screenplay (screenwriter Koepp), the acting, the setting and even the humor was on point.
I don't think anyone actually thought Scarface was a great film. Its like the white version of Belly or State Property
 

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Cool :ehh:

however i realize it may not be a popular opinion since Scarface is the more popular film among a lot of people.
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thats because its WAY more entertaining

nobody watches scarface for the story or the morality lesson... we watch it again and again and again for tonys fukkery!

i swear i can recite 80% of that movie from memory



yeah carlitos way is a great film but id take scarface over it any day
 

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A little off-topic but I want to recommend De Palma’s ‘Blow Out’, which was done a couple years before Scarface.

Being a De Palma fan, I should have seen that years ago, but just watched about a month ago, on HBO Max. Loved it.

Love De Palma's psychosexual thriller phase, Dressed to Kill, Blow Out, Body Double, I like Body Double the best, maybe.

I have seen Obsession, but it's a little ludicrous, even for Del Palma
 
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