Popularity wise who had a higher peak, Drake or Wayne?
When Will Acknowledge How Much Lasting Damage Meek Mill Really Did?
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Popularity wise who had a higher peak, Drake or Wayne?
Well it's all subjective. Probably off impact a lone he still will be considered by many to be an all time great. But I never fukked with him like that. I didn't fukk with Weezy either though but can see why many consider him an all time great if you know what I mean. Drake is the biggest 'rapper' still but he will never feature in a debate about greatest MC anymore.
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
In 2003, Kanye West was not considered a legend. I don't think you understand what I'm saying. In 2003 I don't think nikkas was putting Kanye up with Premo and 'em.YES. The fukk
I'm well aware of his work before his albums.
onelastdeath
Banned
WickedGames
Superstar
Literally nothing has changed for Drake apart from message board discussions. His guest verses are still revered, his albums still sell, arenas still sell, still getting listed on top of MC lists. Meek Mill blew his chances of future stimulus packages and released his lowest selling project he's ever had on sale.
WickedGames
Superstar
He wasn't considered a legend. He was a hot/good producer.YES. The fukk
Have you looked At his pre college dropout production credits?
These are the singles pre 2003 alone
2001
- "The Truth" (Beanie Sigel)
- "This Can't Be Life" (Jay-Z)
2002
- "Izzo (H.O.V.A.)" (Jay-Z)
- "Takeover" (Jay-Z)
- "Heart of the City (Ain't No Love)" (Jay-Z)
- "Never Change" (Jay-Z)
2003
- "'03 Bonnie and Clyde" (Jay-Z featuring Beyoncé)
- "Get By" (Talib Kweli)
- "B R Right" (Trina featuring Ludacris)
- "Brown Sugar (Fine)" (Mos Def)
- "Guess Who's Back" (Scarface)
Not even a complete list. JUST THE SINGLES.
- "Stand Up" (Ludacris featuring Shawnna)
- "Knock Knock" (Monica)
- "You Don't Know My Name" (Alicia Keys)
Then you add in all the work on top of the smash singles Pre college dropout
Grav, Jermaine Dupri, Nas, Freeway, FOXY, HOV, Harlem World, Janet Jackson, Alicia Keys, Goodie Mob, Beanie, Lil Kim, DMX, Fab
Poppa Was A Playa, Encore, Lucifer etc
1996
Grav – Down to Earth
03. "World Domination 1"
05. "Sick Thoughts"
06. "City to City" (featuring Al Tariq & Lil Ray)
07. "Thought It Was On"
08. "Line For Line" (featuring Kanye West)
10. "Keep Movin'"
12. "One Puff"
13. "Down to Earth"
14. GS5
1998
Jermaine Dupri – Life in 1472
01. "(Intro) Turn It Out" (featuring Nas)
Sample Credit: Davy DMX – One For the Treble
Sample Credit: Willie Hutch – Hoespital Prelude of Love Theme
Foxy Brown – Chyna Doll
03. "My Life"
Gangsta Boo – Untitled
"Get It Started" (featuring Nelly)
1999
Harlem World – The Movement
02. "You Made Me" (featuring Nas & Carl Thomas)
Sample Credit: Eddie Kendricks – Time In A Bottle
03. "Minute Man" (featuring Nauty)
Sample Credit: Bill Withers – Lovely Day
08. "100 Shiesty's" (featuring Drag-On)
Trina & Tamara – Trina & Tamara
03. "Joanne"
Sample Credit: George Benson – California Dreaming
Goodie Mob – World Party
09. "Rebuilding"
Sample Credit: Grover Washington, Jr. – Love Song 1700
Infamous Syndicate – Changing The Game
06. "What You Do to Me (featuring Kanye West)"
08. "Clock Strikes 12" (featuring Fatal)
13. "City of Hustlas"
Made Men – Classic Limited Edition
02. "Just You And I"
15. "Is It You? (Deja Vu)" (Remix) (featuring Big Pun, Cardan, Mase)
2000
Beanie Sigel – The Truth
01. "The Truth"
Sample Credit: Graham Nash – Chicago
Dead Prez – Let's Get Free
16. "It's Still Bigger Than Hip-Hop" (Real Version)
The Madd Rapper – Tell 'Em Why U Madd
04. "You're All Alone" (featuring Picasso Black)
05. "That's What's Happenin'" (featuring Tracey Lee & the Leonards, Ma$e)
Sample Credit: Sylvia Striplin – Give Me Your Love
09. "Stir Crazy" (featuring Eminem)
Sample Credit: Bobbie Gentry and Glen Campbell – Sunday Mornin'
11. "Ghetto" (featuring Raekwon, Carl Thomas)
15. "Too Many Ho's" (featuring Jermaine Dupri, Lil' Cease)
17. "Not the One"
Sample Credit: Soul Dog – Can't Stop Loving You
Lil' Kim – The Notorious KIM
12. "Don't Mess With Me"
Sample Credit: Pat Benatar – Heartbreaker
Jay-Z – The Dynasty: Roc La Familia
05. "This Can’t Be Life" (featuring Beanie Sigel & Scarface)
Sample Credit: Harold Melvin & The Bluenotes – I Miss You
Da Brat – Unrestricted
17. "Chi Town"
2001
Beanie Sigel – The Reason
01. "Nothing Like It"
Sample Credit: Dynamic Superiors – Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing
10. "Gangsta, Gangsta" (featuring Kurupt)
Jay-Z – The Blueprint
02. "Takeover"
Sample Credit: The Doors – 5 to 1
03. "Izzo (H.O.V.A.)"
Sample Credit: The Jackson Five – I Want You Back
08. "Heart of the City (Ain't No Love)"
Sample Credit: Bobby Bland – Ain't No Love In The Heart Of The City
09. "Never Change"
Sample Credit: David Ruffin – Common Man
15. "Girls, Girls, Girls" (Remix) (Bonus Track)
Sample Credit: The Persuaders – Trying Girls Out
Abstract Mindstate The M.O.D. – We Paid Let Us In!
07. "Pain" (featuring Trizonna)
2002
State Property – State Property
11. Beanie Sigel & Freeway – Got Nowhere
Sample Credit: The Miracles – Nowhere To Go
Cam'ron – Come Home With Me
12. Dead or Alive
Sample Credit: Buffy Sainte-Marie – Lazarus
Nas – The Lost Tapes
11. Poppa Was a Playa
Sample Credit: Eddie Kendricks – The Newness is Gone
Scarface – The Fix
03. In Cold Blood
Sample Credit: – Gladys Knight – And This is Love
04. Guess Who’s Back (feat. Jay-Z & Beanie Sigel)
Sample Credit: – The Originals – Sunrise
Sample Credit: – Dr. Dre – Xxplosive
11. Heaven (feat. Kelly Price)
Sample Credit: – The Dramatics – That Heaven Kind of Feeling
Trina – Diamond Princess
05. B R Right (feat. Ludacris)
16. Do You Want Me? (feat. Bathgate)
Brown Sugar [Soundtrack]
01. Brown Sugar (Extra Sweet) (Mos Def feat. Faith Evans)
04. Brown Sugar (Raw) (Black Star)
07. Breakdown (Mos Def)
14. Brown Sugar (Fine) (Black Star)
Sample Credit: Norman Connors – Invitation
Knoc-turn'al – L.A. Confidential presents: Knoc-turn'al
02. Muzik
Sample Credit: Wings – Old Siam Sir
Sample Credit: Eddie Bo – Hook and Sling – Part I & Part 2
Jay-Z – The Blueprint²: The Gift & the Curse
Disc 1:
01. A Dream (feat. Faith Evans & The Notorious B.I.G.)
Sample Credit: The Notorious B.I.G. – Juicy
Sample Credit: Blackjack – Stay
04. '03 Bonnie & Clyde (feat. Beyoncé)
Sample Credit: Prince – If I Was Your Girlfriend (Vocal Interpolation)
Sample Credit: 2pac – Me And My Girlfriend (Vocal Interpolation)
08. Poppin' Tags (feat. Twista, Killer Mike, & Big Boi)
Sample Credit: The Marvelettes – After All
Disc 2:
06. Some People Hate
Sample Credit: Brenda Russell – Word Called Love
Talib Kweli – Quality
03. Get By
Sample Credit: Nina Simone – Sinnerman
Sample Credit: Love – Doggone
09. Guerrilla Monsoon Rap (feat. Black Thought, Kanye West & Pharoahe Monch)
Sample Credit: The Chi-Lites – I Never Had It So Good (And Felt So Bad)
14. Good To You
Sample Credit: Al Green – Simply Beautiful
Paid in Full Soundtrack
01. Champions (Dame Dash feat. Kanye West, Beanie Sigel, Cam'Ron, Young Chris & Twista)
2003
Freeway – Philadelphia Freeway
10. Turn Out the Lights
14. Hear the Song (featuring Tarrey Torae)
Sample Credit: Chic – Will You Cry (When You Hear This Song)
Fabolous – Street Dreams
16. My Life (featuring Mary J. Blige)
Sample Credit: Ohio Players – Pride and Vanity
Hot Karl – I Like To Read
12. Armand Assante
Sample Credit: Laura Nyro – Women's blues
Cam'Ron Presents... The Diplomats – Diplomatic Immunity
Disc 1:
01. Un Casa (featuring Un Kasa & Cam'ron)
Lil' Kim – La Bella Mafia
16. Came Back For You
Sample Credit: Irene Reid – Didn't We
Monica – After the Storm
06. "Knock Knock"
Sample Credit: The Masqueraders – It's A Terrible Thing To Waste My Love
Beyoncé – Dangerously In Love
16. '03 Bonnie & Clyde (with Jay-Z) (Bonus Track)
Sample Credit: Prince – If I Was Your Girlfriend
Sample Credit: 2Pac – Me And My Girlfriend
T.I. – Trap Muzik
05. Doin' My Job
Sample Credit: Bloodstone – I'm Just Doin My Job
11. Let Me Tell You Something
Sample Credit: Zapp and Roger – I Want to Be Your Man
Royce da 5'9" – Build and Destroy
04. Heartbeat
Sample Credit: Jr. Walker – Darling Come Back Home
DMX – Grand Champ
04. Dogs Out
Sample Credit: The Shirelles – Dedicated to the One I Love
Ludacris – Chicken-n-Beer
03. Stand Up (feat. Shawnna)
Jay-Z – The Black Album
04. Encore
Sample Credit: John **** – I Will
12. Lucifer
Sample Credit: Max Romeo – I Chase The Devil
Alicia Keys – The Diary of Alicia Keys
05. You Don't Know My Name
Sample Credit: The Main Ingredient – Let Me Prove My Love To You
Memphis Bleek – M.A.D.E.
07. I Wanna Love You (featuring Donell Jones)
Sample Credit: – Michael Jackson – P.Y.T
Mystic – Cuts For Luck & Scars For Freedom... (Learning To Breathe)
01. Breathe (Better Days)
06. Here We Are
Nappy Roots – Wooden Leather
12. These Walls
2004
Twista – Kamikaze
04. Slow Jamz (feat. Kanye West and Jamie Foxx)
Sample Credit: Luther Vandross – A House Is Not A Home
05. Overnight Celebrity
Sample Credit: Lenny Williams – Cause I Love You
09. One Last Time
Janet Jackson – Damita Jo
04. Strawberry Bounce
Sample Credit: Jay-Z – Can I Get A
05. My Baby (featuring Kanye West)
12. I Want You
Sample Credit: B.T. Express – (They Long To Be) Close To You
larryshogunz
Southside...
Lol. Usual suspects with the yearly deflection.
onelastdeath
Banned
The question was. Would Kanye still be a hip hop legend / have a place in Hip Hop without releasing an album. The answer to that is yes.
WickedGames
Superstar
He wouldn't be a legendary rapper and most people didn't know Kanye before he released music. He became a legend to the masses because of music.
This is some revisionist shyt based on his quality catalogue. Kanye wasn't being called a legend back then
onelastdeath
Banned
That's not what I said tho. For the 12th time.
I said without a rapper career, he's still a legend. That's what I said. Doesn't matter if he was or wasn't a legend in 03.
In 16, he'd be looked at as a legend.
ReasonableMatic
................................
If you can't paint a picture on your own, you make a stain on somebody else's - Tsu Surf
Meek ruined Drake's legacy forever by leaving that ghostwriting stain.
Even tho he took the L in the battle, he won the war in the longrun with that.
Meek ruined Drake's legacy forever by leaving that ghostwriting stain.
Even tho he took the L in the battle, he won the war in the longrun with that.
You're being dishonest.
Without analyzing it much: Drake. He benefits by having peaked during the social media era.
twitter fingers is the best thing to come out of all this
it describes our new president perfectly
it describes our new president perfectly