When Vince GOATsso was writing for TNA it was drawing more viewers than Smackdown (and now WWF RAW)

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He had his pros and cons like anyone. I think he comes across as annoying and he HAS had some real stinkers, so people don't wanna give him credit for anything. Which is unfair.

He's pretty defensive of all of his ideas too. Don't understand it. Wrestling requires insane output since they produce so much new content week after week after week.... no human alive can be that creatively on. No shame in missing the mark if your body of work is decent overall, so I don't get the need to hide it.

I think the best combo will forever be a maniac like Russo, spitballing a million ideas from left field, and someone like Vince to filter out the bad ones and put the icing on top. That's what worked, and it's never been tried again.
 

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Smackdown can barely draw 2.1 mil. Youtubers do more than this.

But let me stop, because when you drop facts you're "trolling." :mjgrin:
 

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Well the one common denominator is Vince McMahon. And shyt is wack now. 2 plus 2 breh. Even before Russo shyt was lame in terms of weekly content. PPVs were cool but Raw sucked. Russo came through and changed the game.


Pretty much feel like theyve gone back to that 1992-95
 

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Well the one common denominator is Vince McMahon. And shyt is wack now. 2 plus 2 breh. Even before Russo shyt was lame in terms of weekly content. PPVs were cool but Raw sucked. Russo came through and changed the game.

Russo didn't change shyt.

The 2 biggest stars the industry has ever seen did.
 

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Smackdown can barely draw 2.1 mil. Youtubers do more than this.

But let me stop, because when you drop facts you're "trolling." :mjgrin:

When the marks are presented with the facts and they have nothing to refute it with, instead of just admitting they are wrong they say it's trolling to just discredit everything, it's sad, pathetic and ultimately anti-intellectual

But it's good to see more and more posters calling these marks out for that
 

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And now shytting on RAW ratings

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If that was true it’d be very impressive, but it’s not. TNAs biggest audience was the first night Hogan, the Outsiders, and Jeff Hardy came in and they went head to head with RAW. That first hour still did less than 2 million viewers, and nothing they ever did came close to that

I kinda like Russo, but TNA with Russo was doing 900k-1.2mil viewers, not 2 million.

Edit: They did do 2 mil, they just never came close to a 2.0. More people watched TV then.
 

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If that was true it’d be very impressive, but it’s not. TNAs biggest audience was the first night Hogan, the Outsiders, and Jeff Hardy came in and they went head to head with RAW. That first hour still did less than 2 million viewers, and nothing they ever did came close to that

I kinda like Russo, but TNA with Russo was doing 900k-1.2mil viewers, not 2 million.

Edit: They did do 2 mil
, they just never came close to a 2.0. More people watched TV then.

:mjlol:

Why does it hurt you all so much to give Vince GOATsso credit for anything positive?

It’s parody levels, especially when Austin, HBGOAT, Foley... all on the record for saying how he was the reason for the change in creative and business, but the marks who never stepped foot backstage trying to rewrite history
 
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