When they say the Dems are too far left, remember this:

[Berniewood Hogan]

America's perception of the political spectrum is both narrow and skewed right. Republicans are practically Nazis to most of the world.

 

[mc_brew]

i think when most amerikkkans say the dem party is too far left, they are upset that dems cozy up to the black, hispanic, and lgbtq community too much... most of these people would not say the dem party is too left if the dems were an all white party catering mostly to the whims of white men....

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

i think when most amerikkkans say the dem party is too far left, they are upset that dems cozy up to the black, hispanic, and lgbtq community too much... most of these people would not say the dem party is too left if the dems were an all white party catering mostly to the whims of white men....

You're right. As usual, racism is the core of an American problem.

 

[Snoopy Loops]

i think when most amerikkkans say the dem party is too far left, they are upset that dems cozy up to the black, hispanic, and lgbtq community too much... most of these people would not say the dem party is too left if the dems were an all white party catering mostly to the whims of white men....

Even Black people say the dems are too left, not that it’s true, it’s moreso coziness with lbgtq (imho)

 

[Snoopy Loops]

i think when most amerikkkans say the dem party is too far left, they are upset that dems cozy up to the black, hispanic, and lgbtq community too much... most of these people would not say the dem party is too left if the dems were an all white party catering mostly to the whims of white men....

Even Black people say the dems are too left, not that it’s true, it’s moreso coziness with illegal immigration, amnesty and refugees

Edit: this is to a greater extent

 

[Geek Nasty]

And Elizabeth warren and Bernie are basically Democrats before the Clinton era.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

And Elizabeth warren and Bernie are basically Democrats before the Clinton era.

If we're being honest, I grew up when Reagan and Bush 1 were presidents. So I have no idea what Democrats back then were like. But based on what I've read, the only Democrat that resembles Sanders and Warren is FDR.

But just to remind people on how FDR, the Democrat, dealt with black people,

President Franklin D. Roosevelt to A. Phillip Randolph: 'Make Me Do It!'

At the behest of Eleanor Roosevelt, the wife of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Randolph was invited to the White House to voice his concerns about the unequal treatment accorded to the members of his union. After listening to Randolph's problems and solutions, FDR replied, "Most of his constituents always came with grievances, but in order to get them resolved, they made me do it; therefore, you have to make me do it." Following that meeting, Randolph proposed the first gigantic rally to be held in Washington, D.C., which took place some 20 years later.

The real story behind “make him do it”

According to Pula F. Pfeffer’s “A. Philip Randolph, Pioneer of the Civil Right Movement,” more than 250,000 defense jobs were closed to African-Americans regardless of qualifications; they were denied placement even in unskilled jobs. Only 240 of 107,000 workers in the aircraft industry were black. In response to a U.S. employment service survey, more than half of the defense companies said they would not hire blacks.

Randolph’s biographers report that he and other civil rights leaders came away from a September, 1940 meeting with FDR not buoyed by suggestion that cause was just and winnable, but increasingly frustrated.

It was then that Randolph and the others decided that a new strategy was needed – a march on Washington that would bring 10,000 African-Americans to the nation’s capital, demanding an end to discrimination in the Armed Services and defense industry.

Writes Pfeffer: “[Randolph] conceived of the march as a show of black mass power so enormous that the government could not ignore it. The idea was not different in kind – there had been marches before – but it differed significantly in scope. Because blacks were `supposed to be unrecognizable,’ Randolph wrote, such a march `would wake up and shock official Washington as it had never been shocked before.’ ”

As momentum and publicity for the march built, Randolph increased his estimate of the crowd it would draw, from 10,000 to 100,000, and asked FDR to address the gathering.

FDR and his wife, Eleanor, who served as his liaison to the African-American community, were aghast. “The Roosevelts feared the march would result in a race war in the nation’s capital that would prove an embarrassment to a country that held itself up as a model of democracy,” Pfeffer wrote.

FDR met with Randolph and the civil rights leaders again in June 1941. FDR attempted to charm them and urged them to cancel the march. In exchange, the president offered to call defense industry chieftains to get them to voluntarily hire blacks. Randolph and the other civil rights leaders refused to budge. Roosevelt finally relented, issuing Executive Order 8802 barring discrimination in the defense industries. Randolph and his colleagues then canceled the march.

Far from encouraging the civil rights leaders to make him end discrimination, Roosevelt did everything he could to resist their pressure, according to Randolph’s biographers. Only when he was convinced that they wouldn’t buckle to presidential persuasion did FDR have the executive order issued.
The story offers a tougher lesson for reformers than the “Make me do it” legend does. They may not have a co-conspirator in the White House, despite his rhetoric of change, hope and community organizing. But it also offers an example of how seemingly impossible goals can be achieved by clearly articulating objectives, relentless organizing and not being afraid to show the muscle that such hard work can build. President Obama showed his audacity in winning election. If history is a guide, it’s time for reformers to show theirs.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

@For Da Bag FDR was racist. Bernie is not.

 

[88m3]

Nazis

 

[Secure Da Bag]

@For Da Bag FDR was racist. Bernie is not.

Policy-wise and impact-wise they are the closest to FDR.


I'll ignore the paraphrase controversy by the author about Bernie and busing.

 

[DEAD7]

Electing a black president and passing the pseudo socialist ACA cost the left both the house, and the senate...

Y’all keep pushing left though...
Eventually you will put two and two together

 

[DEAD7]

@For Da Bag FDR was racist. Bernie is not.

He’s not a racist, just a racially tone deaf old white man who is focused on lifting all boats rather than addressing the unique space African Americans occupy.

Shouldn’t be any black mans horse in the race.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Electing a black president and passing the pseudo socialist ACA cost the left both the house, and the senate...

Y’all keep pushing left though...
Eventually you will put two and two together

It's odd because Republicans voters were against Obamacare and now they refuse to give it up.

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[Professor Emeritus]

Even Black people say the dems are too left, not that it’s true, it’s moreso coziness with illegal immigration, amnesty and refugees

Edit: this is to a greater extent

Mostly bullshyt talking point that there's no way you get from talking to actual Black folk. I rarely ever meet anyone who thinks immigration is the top shyt to worry about and I'm from LA. Black folk are in the liberal mainstream on immigration overall - 73% oppose a border wall and 81% want to give amnesty to illegals who came here when they were children.

Your original post about LGBT was much more on point.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Electing a black president and passing the pseudo socialist ACA cost the left both the house, and the senate...

Y’all keep pushing left though...
Eventually you will put two and two together

What does "pseudo-socialist" mean?

How is the ACA any more socialist than the pre-existing health care system?

I'd agree that Medicare is pseudo-socialist, but it's a stretch to put the ACA in that category, and Republicans generally love Medicare.