When democrats lose this alley oop election, will they learn from their mistake or are they too arrogant to care and fix the issue ?

[the cac mamba]

By whom? Uncharismatic DeSantis?

and kamala has charisma?

a trump-less election would have been about nothing but inflation and the economy. Desantis, or pretty much any republican with a pulse, would have rolled Kamala. that's a fact

Dems lucked out with Trump sticking around there's nothing wrong with that. luck is a good thing

 

[Art Barr]

I literally told you im not voting for trump, im voting for the couch... Exposed myself to what. i been told you i hate bothsides... you keep saying exposed??! nikka make it make sense...

Okay .

Bixby.


Art Barr

 

[BrothaZay]

There isn't any. It's a complete distortion of reality to make that claim. No one has treated this election like an alley-oop. People actually learned something from 2016 and Hillary's disastrous failed campaign.

I know I have been annoying as fukk on here trying to get people to understand the stakes and to take this seriously.

what did they learn?

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

what did they learn?

Her campaign learned several lessons from Hillary Clinton's 2016 failure, which resulted in the shifting of their strategy to balance data with actual human insights and engagement with voters on the ground. Remember, in 2016, Clinton's campaign over-relied on an algorithmic tool that was designed to optimize resources and predict voter behavior. Their approach missed crucial on-the-ground sentiments in several important swing states like Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Harris's campaign team recognized the importance of combining both data with local knowledge and grassroots input and organizing to stay in tune with voter concerns.

Further, rather than focusing primarily on Trump's shortcomings by running another "I'm not Trump" campaign, she has leaned into a more unifying message centered on things like empathy, economic recovery, healthcare, reproductive rights, and so on. These issues resonate on a more personal level with some undecided and working-class voters over just shouting "I'm not Trump."

They also prioritized digital outreach and took steps to counter misinformation, while building broader coalition support by appealing directly to young, rural, and progressive groups that were overlooked in 2016. They made these decisions based on mistakes made during Hillary's 2016 failure, and formed a more flexible, people-centered approach that emphasized real-time engagement over a strict reliance on rigid, data-driven predictability. It still remains to be seen if this will work, but you can't deny that that 2016 failure lead to changes in campaigning.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/11/09/clintons-data-driven-campaign-relied-heavily-on-an-algorithm-named-ada-what-didnt-she-see/

 

[horizon]

Normies like socialism and socialist policies, they don't like it when it's explicitly associated with socialism or democrats. The democratic party has yet to figure out a way to overcome this branding problem.

 

[Cave Savage]

nah, just PA and GA, and he takes it

i'm not worried about michigan, with whitmer and abortion on the ballot, but i could see trump beating kamala in PA and GA

Whoever wins PA is going to the White House

 

[CashmereThoughts]

You would think that since the electoral college keeps fukking them a Dem would run on getting rid of it.

Getting rid of it is not realistic. Republicans would have to cooperate

 

[Cave Savage]

Getting rid of it is not realistic. Republicans would have to cooperate

Republicans will support getting rid of it as soon as it hurts them for the first time

Which could happen if red states become extremely red with swing states being consistently just over 50% Dem

 

[JT-Money]

You would think that since the electoral college keeps fukking them a Dem would run on getting rid of it.

They tried it twice but backed down like they always do.

 

[JT-Money]

Black Voters and the Democratic Party: One Family’s Story​

Black Voters and the Democratic Party: One Family’s Story

Strong support from Black Americans will be crucial if Kamala Harris is to win states like Georgia — and, potentially, the presidency.

www.nytimes.com

 

[UpAndComing]

It's crazy that since 2000, the republican candidates have been W. Bush, Mccain, Romney, Trump and it's still close races outside of the Obama years.

They managed to lose twice against W, lost to Donald "I grab them by the p*ssy" Trump, and are having a close race against convicted felon Trump...

At some point you gotta look inward and question why is it so hard to win against shyt candidates. I personally think the "culture war" was lost in the late 90s/early 2000s.

Or maybe the Democratic party should not have a campaign centered around "Well at least we're not Trump" and actually spend 2-3 years building up candidates to the general public that actually promotes their values and can stand on their own with their own fanbase

Just a thought

 

[Mister Terrific]

Ain’t nothing alley oop about this election MF. Trump has a solid 47% of the electorate.

What fukking issues do you think a stupid mutherfukker who would get up and vote for Trump after everything he’s done that would sway them at this point?

Gaza?

 

[Mister Terrific]

Or spend 2-3 years building up candidates to the general public that actually promotes their values and can stand on their own with their own fanbase

Just a thought

Who is that? what values do you have that you feel aren’t being met?

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

You would think that since the electoral college keeps fukking them a Dem would run on getting rid of it.

Oh, please. It's not as simple as waving a wand to abolish the EC. It would take a constitutional amendment, which means two-thirds of Congress and three-quarters of the states would have to sign on. And with a chunk of states benefiting from this setup, it's a non-starter no matter who's in office. Remember, even the NPVIC failed to reach the 270-vote threshold needed.

They tried it twice but backed down like they always do.

When? The only congressional effort in modern times aimed at abolishing the EC was during the 1969-70 congressional session. And although it passed the house, it was blocked in the senate by a coalition of racist Southern Democrats and Republicans.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Oh, please. It's not as simple as waving a wand to abolish the EC. It would take a constitutional amendment, which means two-thirds of Congress and three-quarters of the states would have to sign on. And with a chunk of states benefiting from this setup, it's a non-starter no matter who's in office. Remember, even the NPVIC failed to reach the 270-vote threshold needed.


When? The only congressional effort in modern times aimed at abolishing the EC was during the 1969-70 congressional session. And although it passed the house, it was blocked in the senate by a coalition of racist Southern Democrats and Republicans.

I said 'run on it', make it part of your platform, talk about it in the press when given the chance, etc. Why be defeatist from jump?