Not my opinion.Then what the fukk are you doing on a hip hop forum
I'm 25, any y'all have grandparents listening to Rap? What about uncles and aunts?
When and Why Does Hip Hop = The Entire Black Community
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I'm 25, any y'all have grandparents listening to Rap? What about uncles and aunts?
I agree hip hop is a "culture" but it is also a genre of music. In my opinion, hip hop is lyrical, rap on the other hand is not. For isntance, would you compare kendrick lamar to soljua boy? Probably not right, but in your opinion rap is rap right?
Yes, Rap definitely is Rap. There's no such thing as Hip Hop music because its the culture as a whole, its just another misuse of the word by people from outside the culture. Think about it, how can you have Hip Hop music and Rap music, and in both instances there's a rapper and the rapper is rapping on the beat. That makes it the same shyt. The description you provided is just a way of giving a fictitious label to a style of Rap music you find more favorable over other kinds that you don't care for.
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Hip-Hop is at the same crossroad that Jazz, Blues, Rock & Roll and Dance music is at. Are black people going to abandon it like the other genres and let white people co-op it or are we keep the culture and take it into it's next evolutionary phase? There needs to be wholesale changes because we cannot continue to make the music that we've been making for the past 25-30 years and still have a functioning black community.. We need to break the cycle and kill the disease at it's origin.
More young black minds will be lost if we don't.
More young black minds will be lost if we don't.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop_music
read the first paragraph
Believe what you want, but each are different in a some shape, form or fashion.
1. You need wikipedia to tell you what Hip Hop is?
2. Hip hop music, also called hip-hop,[1][2]rap music
While often used to refer to rapping, "hip hop" more properly denotes the practice of the entire subculture.[9][10]
Nowhere in the description does it say anything about Hip Hop music being some superior form of rapping than Rap music. Furthermore, why exactly would you want to use improper terminology with what your talking about? Doesn't make any sense to me, Rap music is an element of Hip Hop culture in the same way DJ'ing or Graffiti are. You still didn't answer my question, how do you have Rap music and Hip Hop music classified as two different things when they are the exact same thing in basic practice?
People glorify the dysfunction of the black community and call it "real nikka" shyt.
Depends on what you think real nikka shyt is. Its a lot of real nikka shyt that almost all people find to be virtuous characteristics.
he connotation of the word has been associated with negativity so much that I hate that term altogether. Watch that Farrakhan video from 12:40 on and see what I am talking about. Hip Hop set so many trends in this society that it ain't even funny anymore. Problem is, the trends don't make people grow the fukk up or become better people, which is why you see so many 35+ people still partying excessively, still wearing fashion like a High School student, and still on the superficial bullshyt.
Farrakhan helped to kill Malcolm so I never really been keen on him.
But I dunno we've had different experiences with the word. Real nikkas tended to be upstanding individuals where I'm from.
People that always bring out the pitchforks kill me, because what exactly is the alternative? Hip Hop started off good because it was a product of the people whereas today its the establishments best tool. Young black people don't control the culture. Why didn't the older generations invest in Hip Hop rather than criticize? Rap music now is 10x more dangerous than it was in the 90s cuz now this shyt is breeding junkies and zombies of consumerism.
Farrakhan helped to kill Malcolm so I never really been keen on him.
But I dunno we've had different experiences with the word. Real nikkas tended to be upstanding individuals where I'm from.
People that always bring out the pitchforks kill me, because what exactly is the alternative? Hip Hop started off good because it was a product of the people whereas today its the establishments best tool. Young black people don't control the culture. Why didn't the older generations invest in Hip Hop rather than criticize? Rap music now is 10x more dangerous than it was in the 90s cuz now this shyt is breeding junkies and zombies of consumerism.
Many of the Junkies of consumerism are the ones that started out in the 90s. All the ignorance of glorifying gangs, selling drugs, black on black crime, is finally taking its toll. I think that the likes of Chief Keef finally made older heads realize that they gave birth to his
life, in a sense. To be fair, Hip Hop has not seen much balance since ATCQ and De La Soul been shafted for street tales that was filled with negativity without solutions or creativity. But the "swag" shyt took over in 06 and raised the 90s babies into clothing junkies.
Many of the Junkies of consumerism are the ones that started out in the 90s. All the ignorance of glorifying gangs, selling drugs, black on black crime, is finally taking its toll. I think that the likes of Chief Keef finally made older heads realize that they gave birth to his
But the "swag" shyt took over in 06 and raised the 90s babies into clothing junkies.
The consumerism is from the D-Boy era in the 80s. Being fly has always been a part of Hip Hop culture, it just didn't take on the importance that it takes on now. Also, once again I think we received two different messages from the gangsta rap era. To me, I felt like these were the memoirs of survivors of the crack era and even some of its participants. The people that control the culture will portray it as they want in order to get a desired effect from the culture's consumers. Take Pac for example, he's always portrayed merely as a thug, his image is distorted to the point he's deified, vilified, and oversimplified for people who don't know of him. The actual message he was sending was never emphasized because it was positive and a remedy. In fact, you find positive messages in quite a few gangsta rap records. Just because your not playing it safe and giving a raw depiction of what's really going on doesn't make it ignorant(if done correctly of course).
