Whats wrong with pushing more Americans to work for lower wages like china does?

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

At some point, Americans with no skills and who are under educated are going to need to get in where they fit in.

You can't beat China doing what we're doing 20 years from now.

Wage floors might have to go down

Whats wrong with this way of thinking?

People want jobs at home, right?

What are Americans willing to do for it?

How much farther will we kick the can down the road?

 

[Lifer11]

As much as I'd like to, it's damn near impossible to argue against this. Americans fought for years for "fair pay" so I don't think people would accept it yet, but absent a mass migration or depopulation event there's really no other practical option. We're either going to continue to see a slow decline which will result in Americans being forced to accept wages similar to the countries we currently outsource jobs to now, or people are going to rise up and completely overhaul the current system. Either way the next 10-15 years are probably not going to be very pretty for the average American, or citizen of any country really.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

Have fun with this one, breh.

 

[Tate]

Love too be a liberal

 

[Jean Jacket]

Have fun with this one, breh.

This is dangerously alluding to Trumps pitch to the wage class...

This mentality will eventually sell us all into a permanent underclass.

Screaming at the bottom and laughing at the top...

 

[Jean Jacket]

At some point, Americans with no skills and who are under educated are going to need to get in where they fit in.

You can't beat China doing what we're doing 20 years from now.

Wage floors might have to go down

Whats wrong with this way of thinking?

People want jobs at home, right?

What are Americans willing to do for it?

How much farther will we kick the can down the road?

Could you please explain where these skill-less uneducated people will fit in....?

I hope that you're not talking about manufacturing...

Please tell me your ideal plan on how this will work and how it will benefit all parties.

 

[CACtain Planet]

Spoiler

 

[Lifer11]

This is dangerously alluding to Trumps pitch to the wage class...

This mentality will eventually sell us all into a permanent underclass.

Screaming at the bottom and laughing at the top...

We've been on that path for 20-30 years already maybe more. People are either going to be broken by it and accept it, or they'll revolt. There's no peaceful solution to the problems the US, and the world as a whole, faces right now.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Could you please explain where these skill-less uneducated people will fit in....?

I hope that you're not talking about manufacturing...

Please tell me your ideal plan on how this will work and how it will benefit all parties.

Bruh, the whole notion is that there used to be jobs for any one who wanted them. You just had to get a little dirty, do something mundane, or just toil away at something stupid.

But it was a job.

Those jobs are out there...there just not in America.

If incentives matter, unless we nationalize certain industries, America is going to have to figure out how to compete on all levels.

Educated people with degrees that matter aren't struggling to find work, for the most part.

and when you mean "benefitting all parties?" come on man...theres no such thing. You just try to do what works well for most people.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This is dangerously alluding to Trumps pitch to the wage class...

This mentality will eventually sell us all into a permanent underclass.

Screaming at the bottom and laughing at the top...

I don't want to sell people into an underclass.

But come on bro.

The average american is imbued with images of success and leisure with none of the gumption past generations had to actually create that security.

You got people out here who hate entry level work. We all know it exists out here. By virtue of knowing about alternatives, no one feels satisfied and the increased consumer and debt markets have squeezed what could have been meager livings even further down



At what point do we try to get solutions on the table?

I'm not talking about party politics. I'm talking about labor markets.

 

[Lifer11]

There are other solutions, but it would have to be something on the scale on the Industrial Revolution. Alternative energy for one could provide millions of well paying careers, and help turn things around, but the oil industry and the politicians in bed with them aren't going to let that happen without a fight either. Plus we're still looking at probably at least a 10-15 year period before anything like that can have a significant effect.

3d printers and robotics are also going to play a huge part in taking those low skilled/paid jobs away from other countries too. In the next few decades the 5 day/40 hr work week will most likely be completely extinct.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

There are other solutions, but it would have to be something on the scale on the Industrial Revolution. Alternative energy for one could provide millions of well paying careers, and help turn things around, but the oil industry and the politicians in bed with them aren't going to let that happen without a fight either. Plus we're still looking at probably at least a 10-15 year period before anything like that can have a significant effect.

3d printers and robotics are also going to play a huge part in taking those low skilled/paid jobs away from other countries too. In the next few decades the 5 day/40 hr work week will most likely be completely extinct.

powering everything with the sun ain't gonna fix the problem of manufacturing and other related industries.

Energy alone won't fix this.

 

[Lifer11]

Bruh, the whole notion is that there used to be jobs for any one who wanted them. You just had to get a little dirty, do something mundane, or just toil away at something stupid.

But it was a job.

Those jobs are out there...there just not in America.

If incentives matter, unless we nationalize certain industries, America is going to have to figure out how to compete on all levels.

Educated people with degrees that matter aren't struggling to find work, for the most part.

and when you mean "benefitting all parties?" come on man...theres no such thing. You just try to do what works well for most people.

To be fair though, those jobs also provided a living wage during those times. Honestly we're just at an absolutely unavoidable crossroads as a species. Technology has been the epitome of a gift and a curse. It's given so many people a much higher standard of living, but on the flipside it is also rendering formerly decent paying menial jobs obsolete, and we now have to decide how to adjust to that. Humanity as a whole is too aware to allow a ruling class to turn us into serfs, but that ruling class is doing everything they can to hold on to obscene amounts of wealth at the expense of the average citizen. We have some brutal years ahead of us.

 

[Street Knowledge]

The days of turn-a-bolt bob making a middle class wage in a small town is long gone. It's not 1956 and it's never coming back

 

[Lifer11]

powering everything with the sun ain't gonna fix the problem of manufacturing and other related industries.

Energy alone won't fix this.

If it's structured properly it can help a lot. The careers that cheap renewable forms of energy can provide mixed with the decrease in labor costs that 3d printers and robotics can provide will completely revolutionize the world as we know it. Now the issue with that is: will the average person benefit from those advances or will they be completely disregarded by the system?