Religion/Spirituality what's with all the atheists on the coli?

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hey bruh bruh. how can i deactivate from this shyt. i can't find a link to deactivate my account.
 

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Thats the one and only god Thor showing you that you need this thread in your life b.

Me and my guy were discussing during Wolverine last night whether Thor could beat Superman, whatcha think?
i've made a thread about it in the help section. i dont understand why its so hard to deactivate. this forum probably just another tool to control nuccas.

i'm outchea like big rod album cover lookin outside my window for these feds.


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Listen.

It happens.

Its all chemistry at the end of the day.

i can explain it to you, but you need to give me about an hour in person.

Its hard to do that online when you guys don't pay attention to the shyt we're telling you.

The Miller-Urey experiments have shown this. Other experiments have shown this.

life is just chemistry. Thats it.

Theres nothing "inanimate" about it. Its simply some chemistry that prefers other types of chemistry.
No matter what.... we cannot put the basic building blocks of life together and create life from inanimate material. I guess the initial climate was the only climate in history that could spark shyt?
 

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there was a questioned asked about GOD speaking to atheist. I proved per the good book that he has spoken with non believers in the past. now if you dont believe in GOD. then thats on you. why ask the question? i've told yall before. you ask a question. i'm going to do my best to give you an answer. you got an answer.

I respect your position but to me this is not evidence I am from the south and didnt use to look at it objectively but now as a adult it is kinda hard to take religion seriously what people call evidence to me is just some words in a book
 

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I miss the old atheist crew that used to argue this shyt.... I guess the topic got played out. Either way, you really can't deem it logical to believe that intelligence and life can come from inanimate matter... at least not with something consciously catalysing the shyt.

It might not be 'logical', but truth isn't always self-evident.
 

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No matter what.... we cannot put the basic building blocks of life together and create life from inanimate material. I guess the initial climate was the only climate in history that could spark shyt?

Okay, and? 100 years ago, man couldn't create machines that flew across the planet ... does that mean flight is impossible?

You are thinking on too small of a scale. Again, look back in history. Just about every natural occurrence that man thought had some supernatural explanation ... after we had the technology & knowledge to investigate and understand them, we discovered that they actually had naturalistic explanations instead. What you're doing is no different than the ancient Greeks attributing lightning bolts to Zeus. Just because we don't have the technology to replicate something, or don't fully understand how something happened, doesn't automatically mean God is the most likely answer. We aren't living at the pinnacle of human knowledge ... who knows what people will discover once we're long and dead from this world. Personally, I seriously doubt the answer is supernatural.
 

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Okay, and? 100 years ago, man couldn't create machines that flew across the planet ... does that mean flight is impossible?

You are thinking on too small of a scale. Again, look back in history. Just about every natural occurrence that man thought had some supernatural explanation ... after we had the technology & knowledge to investigate and understand them, we discovered that they actually had naturalistic explanations instead. What you're doing is no different than the ancient Greeks attributing lightning bolts to Zeus. Just because we don't have the technology to replicate something, or don't fully understand how something happened, doesn't automatically mean God is the most likely answer. We aren't living at the pinnacle of human knowledge ... who knows what people will discover once we're long and dead from this world. Personally, I seriously doubt the answer is supernatural.
I will try to think bigger for now on... I'm so closed minded.
 

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I respect your position but to me this is not evidence I am from the south and didnt use to look at it objectively but now as a adult it is kinda hard to take religion seriously what people call evidence to me is just some words in a book
i'm full grown. and chose on my own to believe. i wasnt forced to walk down that aisle and say the sinners prayer, i wasnt forced to be baptized.thats a choice i made at a young age. i never stop wondering. i'm a wonderer. God made me that way. But with that said, I me.. have personally seen enough thru my life and watching others to believe whats in that book is TRUE.

and for the record what evidence do you have that lincoln was shot? "words in a book" you were not there. for all you know they could be lying.

what do you know about george washington that wasnt taught to you out of a ....BOOK.

at some point you had to have FAITH that what was coming out of those books were true and accurate. you made that choice. some people out there make a choice to not believe a lot of stuff thats 100% true. and they believe stuff that aint true at all. again, thats their choice.
 

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Okay, and? 100 years ago, man couldn't create machines that flew across the planet ... does that mean flight is impossible?

You are thinking on too small of a scale. Again, look back in history. Just about every natural occurrence that man thought had some supernatural explanation ... after we had the technology & knowledge to investigate and understand them, we discovered that they actually had naturalistic explanations instead. What you're doing is no different than the ancient Greeks attributing lightning bolts to Zeus. Just because we don't have the technology to replicate something, or don't fully understand how something happened, doesn't automatically mean God is the most likely answer. We aren't living at the pinnacle of human knowledge ... who knows what people will discover once we're long and dead from this world. Personally, I seriously doubt the answer is supernatural.
what the heck is a naturalistic explanation?
if Some being created Nature then it is GOD regardless of how you spin it.

all we humans can do is DISCOVER. we cant create anything from scratch. we have to work with the chemicals, compounds, etc that are already upon us. this is a sandbox of stuff left here for us to DISCOVER. if you made it a video game those things would be called Easter eggs.

yet you dont think someone created the game.

"ohh we can fly" so its not God its science. uhh science is right. that doesnt get rid of God. science explains GOD in the physical realm. the bible explains God in the spiritual realm and at times in the physical realm.

lets say for arguments sake. just for this example. that God is real. just humor me.

lets say he's floating in the sky coming down from the clouds. lets say the clouds part as he rides down in mid air.

now spiritually science cant explain what just happened. the bible can.

now physically science may actually be able to explain that this being called God just displaced certain molecules while also fending off gravity which gives him the ability to physically FLOAT/FLY on earth.

if he's the creator he may be the one TRUE energy source for all things. science could find an energy signature thats way off the charts like nothing they have never seen or ever will see.

now with science eventually we may be able to DUPLICATE his Flying. but we will never be able to do it from scratch without some assistance like he did. he had on his white rob(humor me) and sandles(lol), no jet pack, no molecule displacer mechanism. just robe and sandles.

but yet when we figure it out, we will need some type of machine HELPER to pull it off.

Birds can fly NATURALLY. can we? NO

but once we figured out HOW birds fly. we can attach a HELPER to us, Now we can FLY too.

that doesnt take anything away from the being that created the original FLIGHT which was the flight of birds.

you think its by coincidence. that,
A V formation (sometimes called a skein) is the symmetric V-shaped flight formation of flights of geese, ducks, and other migratory birds. V formations also improve the fuel efficiency of aircraft and are used on military flight missions.

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easter eggs my friends. Ohhhh, look at those birds..maybe we should do the same thing. ohhhh it works, it works...
 

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and for the record what evidence do you have that lincoln was shot? "words in a book" you were not there. for all you know they could be lying.

what do you know about george washington that wasnt taught to you out of a ....BOOK.


Christianity teaches (generally speaking) that there was once a man, born of a virgin, performed miracles like walking on water and healing lepers, and was executed by the state but rose from the dead 3 days later. Hmmm... which is a more likely of an event to have occurred? Someone DISAGREED with the policies of a US President and tried to take his life as a result? Or some jew had MAGIC powers and did things that NO ONE could do, and has ever done since?

:stopitslime:

Seriously dude, how do you even equate these two things? One is clearly extraordinary, and probably impossible. The other is not that far fetched. Whether I've heard of both events from books is completely irrelevant.

It's said that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. So believing that a president was shot is not that hard to believe, esp. since we KNOW people have made attempts on the lives of other POTUS's ... even in our lifetimes.
 

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Christianity teaches (generally speaking) that there was once a man, born of a virgin, performed miracles like walking on water and healing lepers, and was executed by the state but rose from the dead 3 days later. Hmmm... which is a more likely of an event to have occurred? Someone DISAGREED with the policies of a US President and tried to take his life as a result? Or some jew had MAGIC powers and did things that NO ONE could do, and has ever done since?

:stopitslime:

Seriously dude, how do you even equate these two things? One is clearly extraordinary, and probably impossible. The other is not that far fetched. Whether I've heard of both events from books is completely irrelevant.

It's said that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. So believing that a president was shot is not that hard to believe, esp. since we KNOW people have made attempts on the lives of other POTUS's ... even in our lifetimes.
and there are people willing and ready to VOUCH to give you that extraordinary evidence. but guess what you will say "thats bull....."

so if no one can tell you anything. whats the point? you have your mind made up, no matter what you are told or see. it is what it is. if someone tells you something as simple as i needed 850 for the rent. i only had 500. and out of the blue $350 comes in the mail box on the 31st. the guy didnt ask anyone for help. he just prayed about it. he didnt have a job he's been looking for months now. it ends up being an old pension check from an old job he had when he was in his early 20's, he's 30 and change now. you will call that a coincidence. the guy who prayed about it and got the check will call it extraordinary evidence of GOD and there is nothing that can disprove that belief. and for argument sake what if the guy was right what if that is proof of God. if you refuse to see that as proof. then you refuse to see god.
 

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what the heck is a naturalistic explanation?
if Some being created Nature then it is GOD regardless of how you spin it.

No, what YOU JUST DID is the spin. You're just moving the goalpost. We don't know that some being created nature, but you're claiming everything was caused by it.

We found that lightning is lightning is not a god throwing bolts, but voltage difference with the atmosphere and earth. You're saying, well... god made the voltage difference. Prove it!

all we humans can do is DISCOVER. we cant create anything from scratch. we have to work with the chemicals, compounds, etc that are already upon us. this is a sandbox of stuff left here for us to DISCOVER. if you made it a video game those things would be called Easter eggs.

yet you dont think someone created the game.

"ohh we can fly" so its not God its science. uhh science is right. that doesnt get rid of God. science explains GOD in the physical realm. the bible explains God in the spiritual realm and at times in the physical realm.

Again, you need to find a way to objectively show that God made everything. Just because stuff is here for us to create things, doesn't mean a conscious being put it here for that purpose.

lets say for arguments sake. just for this example. that God is real. just humor me.

lets say he's floating in the sky coming down from the clouds. lets say the clouds part as he rides down in mid air.

now spiritually science cant explain what just happened. the bible can.

This just simply makes no sense. What does "spiritually" even mean, and why is it necessary for science to explain anything "spiritually"?

But if and when this happens is the ONLY time it's reasonable to believe in a god. Not a minute before.

but yet when we figure it out, we will need some type of machine HELPER to pull it off.

Birds can fly NATURALLY. can we? NO

but once we figured out HOW birds fly. we can attach a HELPER to us, Now we can FLY too.

that doesnt take anything away from the being that created the original FLIGHT which was the flight of birds.

What does this have to do with anything, and how does it demonstrate the existence of a god? Nothing you said proves animals couldn't become flying organisms without conscious guided assistance.
 
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