Whats the the better Rookie Album; GRODT or Reasonable Doubt

[Whips-n-Chains]

GRODT isn't a rookie album, technically. I'll get hate for this but it's not an all time great album to me. It's dope, it's classic, but it's overrated imho. I don't love every song on there, there's filler

I think people love it bc they were younger at the time and it did usher in a new era of street rap after that trash ass r&b ja rule 2002 era.

RD is easily the superior album, lyrically and production-wise. And it's not very close to me.

GRODT was a whole movement tho...that had the entire music industry on lock. 50 was an absolute machine 2003-2005. Speaking about strictly Impact, there arent maybe with A greater impact, it's up there with Doggystyle. Not quite the impact as a Straight Outta Compton, The Chronic or 36 Chambers, but it's still a top 10ish record for overall impact to the game. Conversely, RD doesn't even register for impact, but that doesn't affect its quality.

The Blueprint is a much more comparable album to GRODT

And It Was Written is the apt comparison to Reasonable Doubt.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Even giving GRODT the opportunity to compete is



I gave that album away!


That album had some of the corniest songs like: Many Men

If I cant


Ol singing ass album!

I'll give you "if I can't" bc that ish was corny...

But Many Men is timelessss

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

RD.

I relistened to 50's. The popular opinion is that his debut is a classic. I say Massacre is way, way better.

I prefer the massacre as well.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

The world doesn't believe that

GRODT is a classic album
Massacre was fifty chasing for his next in da club big hit rather than just making a dope cohesive album.

Piggy bank was corny
Candy shop was very corny
Disco inferno guilty pleasure for me, but it's not a great track.
Gatman and Robin probably one of the worst 50 songs ever.

If anything it's the Massacre that's had several skippable songs.

Massacre def had filler.

But for example, "position of power" I like more than any song from GRODT (besides maybe many men)

rydah Music, Baltimore Love Thing were fire af too.

 

[Yecht]

Thoughts of a Predicate Felon

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

In Da Club

If you play that shyt RIGHT NOW in any gathering of Hip Hop fans they will get out their chair.

RD doesn't have a song like that

Neither does a slew of other albums far superior than GRODT....

Does Liquid Swords have a song that's going to get everyone out of their chair? 36 Chambers? Illmatic?

Having a smash single to ignite the dance floor isn't a requisite for a classic album.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

every track was a banger and had a video

and the pressure to come nice... he delivered

I get that people dont like the pop gloss... but its amazing

id rather listen to 50s prequel shyt and gunit radio than GRODT

Honestly the G Unit tapes were better than the albums

 

[Shadow King]

Jay and it's not close. Anyone saying it is, is saying so for how popular GRODT was, not how good it actually was.

 

[Shadow King]

Even giving GRODT the opportunity to compete is



I gave that album away!


That album had some of the corniest songs like: Many Men

If I cant


Ol singing ass album!

 

[Redwing80]

Piggy bank was corny

Piggy Bank was hard as fukk

"I get to waving that semi like its legal
A lil nikka hurt his arm letting off that Eagle"

 

[spliz]

The world doesn't believe that

GRODT is a classic album
Massacre was fifty chasing for his next in da club big hit rather than just making a dope cohesive album.

Piggy bank was corny
Candy shop was very corny
Disco inferno guilty pleasure for me, but it's not a great track.
Gatman and Robin probably one of the worst 50 songs ever.

If anything it's the Massacre that's had several skippable songs.

The Massacre also had some of the illest songs in his run tho on the flip side. Ski Mask Way, Baltimore Love Thing, Position Of Power, Ryder Musik, etc etc.

 

[spliz]

nikka try too hard on here. lol.

 

[Illmagic]

Theres not many albums like GRODT. The impact was out of this world. If you weren't there you truly cant understand it. Theres probably not another album that gives me stronger nostalgia vibes. Having said that if we talking quality its RD by a comfortable margin.

 

[spliz]

Nobody said any of that in the OP. He had a fully completed major label album done by Trackmasters. He's not a "rookie" after that.

Power of the Dollar - Wikipedia

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nikka the album was shelved. How the fukk u gonna count an album nobody got to hear? U just wanna be right or some shyt? Lol

 

[spliz]

high all the time
bloodhound
backdown
pimp
wanksta

are all meh

Wow. nikka just said Wanksta was “meh”. nikka were u around during that era? lol.