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If hall and Nash don’t leave wwe to join hogan in wcw then Austin probably never delivers that speech .. remember hhh would’ve won KOtR it that year 
What's More important In Wrestling History: Austin's king of the ring speech, Or Hogan's Heel Turn?
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Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
"Well you knowah... In Hunter Hearst Helmsley's letter to the Ephesiansah.... It saysah... That the reality isah....."If hall and Nash don’t leave wwe to join hogan in wcw then Austin probably never delivers that speech .. remember hhh would’ve won KOtR it that year
top babyface HHH in the late 90's would've spelled fukking dungeon of doom for the WWF
"Well you knowah... In Hunter Hearst Helmsley's letter to the Ephesiansah.... It saysah... That the reality isah....."
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"Well you knowah... In Hunter Hearst Helmsley's letter to the Ephesiansah.... It saysah... That the reality isah....."
Rell84shots
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But you don't have the Attitude Era if it's not for the Hogan heel turn. Do ya'll not get that the nWo is the reason why the WWE became successful again?
They were pretty much trading ratings wins at before Hogan turned. Like I said, it had a more immediate impact on ratings and business for WCW. WWE became successful again because they had competent people in charge, WWE was not going to go out of business. That was overblown IMO.
"If it wasn't for Hulk Hogan, Eric Bischoff would still be selling meat from a truck in Minneapolis."
One of the most viscous lines of ether in the history of our sport
Hogan the character didn't cut that promo, Terry Bollea the man cut that promo and meant EVERY word of it
One of the most viscous lines of ether in the history of our sport
Hogan the character didn't cut that promo, Terry Bollea the man cut that promo and meant EVERY word of it
CBoz
We Are NXT!
"Well you knowah... In Hunter Hearst Helmsley's letter to the Ephesiansah.... It saysah... That the reality isah....."
He was still blue blood HHH at the time. They probably would have done a king gimmick like Booker T if it wasn't for the curtain call.
Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
Eric Bischoff Meat Trucks
its the other way around actually.
Hogan's heel turn sparked the last boom period in professional wrestling.
Austin's speech wasn't important at all. if the WWE didn't constantly beat us over the head with that clip for years & years, we would only talk about it in retrospective threads like a "1996 WWF" convo or something.
not to mention, he started running that schtick in ECW right before he jumped to the WWF and they made him the ringmaster.
Hogan doesnt turn heel, it doesnt get a larger audeince of both casual and wresting fans going "Hey Hulk Hogan is a bad guy now?"
The Outisiders/NWO gimmick while cool would be only a wrestling angle if Hogan doesnt give it that outside attention as the man who made wrestling famous
In turn that not being there doent help WCW get huge. WCW doesnt get huge, WWF doesnt get any compeition and force them to go with Vince, Austin and DX and the whole attitude era as DX
Remember Austin didnt really blow up until close to a year later after the Austn 3:16 speech, it was a steady build and they did sit on him until 97 when they realized what they had. And if NWO isnt on their necks, who knows if they pull the trigger
I was rockin wit you, up until the bolded.
nitro & raw were trading wins in the Monday night wars from DAY ONE. and before nitro even existed, WCW shows usually drew better ratings.
WCW was ALWAYS their competition. youre acting like they WCW was some upstart company like TNA or ROH or somebody. people that didn't even watch wrestling, knew about WCW.
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Put social media in that time, Hogan's heel turn would have made national headlines.
All over Facebook, Twitter, ESPN, recognizable names mentioning what happened on Instagram and other platforms
They would have legitimately been talking about it on First Take and Unidsputed
Week long videos of kids crying that their hero has turned on them
All over Facebook, Twitter, ESPN, recognizable names mentioning what happened on Instagram and other platforms
They would have legitimately been talking about it on First Take and Unidsputed
Week long videos of kids crying that their hero has turned on them
Rell84shots
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How was it overblown when people who worked there confirmed how bad things had gotten? They were having RAW in high school gyms during the mid 90s.
The main reason WWE won the war was because of AOL time warner...we don't know if WCW was still around if another cycle they would have lead the ratings war again...think 2003 after Austin and Rock are starting to fade out if WCW was still around and fans had to choose between competition or seeing the terroristic reign of HHH
the death of WCW happened after 4 years of either speech...that's a whole era in wrestling years
they were at the Manhattan Center.