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Austin's promo changed the trajectory of his career. Hogan's heel turn changed the trajectory of the wrestling industry as a whole.
What's More important In Wrestling History: Austin's king of the ring speech, Or Hogan's Heel Turn?
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prophecypro
Hollywood North
His career was at an impasse yes
But that switch was huge and you dont get WWF going all in on Austin and the attitude era if the effects of him going heel and the NWO dont happen
They kept Austin in a holding pattern until they saw the effect of the NWO and then they had to try things and even then they didnt go all in Austin until deep into 97 when they were really gettig their ass kicked
Also I would say while Hall and Nash helped with the cool factor of the NWO, that thing aint big with anyone else as the third man its just not.
Bingo. That’s the answer.
ig88
Bounty Hunter
Austins is cool but it just dont compare
Austin was a slow burn to a hot fire that burned out too quick.
Hulk came into wwf and outranked austin the second he got there due to the impact nwo hulk had.
Dude was making 15 mill a year as hollywood hogan in his prime. That moment turned the whole industry upside down.
Peopl say hulk needed hall and nash but hulk elevated them to all time stars. Just by being with him they were both now at the randy savage level of popularity (strong nunber 2 man or 1b to hulks 1a) and rising in their prime. It was a perfect pairing as both diesel and razor were synomonous with northeast crowds like hulk was; inciting incredible heat in wcws south.
Youre bugging. Austins pride lost him that war. Hulk vs austin would have been bigger than hulk vs rock. But austin knew a returning hulk at wrestlemania was the only way hed get booed and he would have. Tried to shyt on hulk saying he couodnt go and let rock and hogan put on a top 3 wm moment in history to rival the original hulk moments.
That shyt turned rock into a super super star. And austin faced hall.. gone the next year with the pity retirement match III vs rock as hulk stole the show with mcmahon of all people.
hulk had like a 25 year run on top. From 82 to the michels match.
Austins career was fizzling in 01 and started spiraling the second hulk came back. 97-2002 vs 82-03, 05?
I laugh when the austin stans like JR try and rewrite history like austin the hottest thing there ever was.
Austin was a slow burn to a hot fire that burned out too quick.
Hulk came into wwf and outranked austin the second he got there due to the impact nwo hulk had.
Dude was making 15 mill a year as hollywood hogan in his prime. That moment turned the whole industry upside down.
Peopl say hulk needed hall and nash but hulk elevated them to all time stars. Just by being with him they were both now at the randy savage level of popularity (strong nunber 2 man or 1b to hulks 1a) and rising in their prime. It was a perfect pairing as both diesel and razor were synomonous with northeast crowds like hulk was; inciting incredible heat in wcws south.
Youre bugging. Austins pride lost him that war. Hulk vs austin would have been bigger than hulk vs rock. But austin knew a returning hulk at wrestlemania was the only way hed get booed and he would have. Tried to shyt on hulk saying he couodnt go and let rock and hogan put on a top 3 wm moment in history to rival the original hulk moments.
That shyt turned rock into a super super star. And austin faced hall.. gone the next year with the pity retirement match III vs rock as hulk stole the show with mcmahon of all people.
hulk had like a 25 year run on top. From 82 to the michels match.
Austins career was fizzling in 01 and started spiraling the second hulk came back. 97-2002 vs 82-03, 05?
I laugh when the austin stans like JR try and rewrite history like austin the hottest thing there ever was.
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Metal Face
Superstar
Hogan's heel turn started a boom period so obviously that.
The_Unchosen_One
Superstar
This!!!
Hogan's heel turn changed shyt overnight for all of pro wrestling
Hogan had movies, TV Shows, he was Mr. Pro Wrestling!!!
You had kids in the stands crying because of Hulk turning heel.... that's only comparable to kids in the stands crying because they are forced to watch a 97 year old Taker still try to relive his glory days
The Prince of All Saiyans
Formerly Jisoo Stan & @Twitter
Lotta you j-brones saiyan Hogan and sure Austin might have had a run eventually but who exactly would have been leading the Attitude era? I mean a heel Mabel wasn't exactly what anybody was clamoring for or a strong face shamrock beating down bozos was 
The_Unchosen_One
Superstar
Lotta you j-brones saiyan Hogan and sure Austin might have had a run eventually but who exactly would have been leading the Attitude era? I mean a heel Mabel wasn't exactly what anybody was clamoring for or a strong face shamrock beating down bozos was
Attitude Era started because of the Hogan Heel Turn
Don't forget... Vince had fake razor and diesel out there while the real ones were in WCW.
Hogan turning and dropping the ether on Vince and WWF in his speech is what eventually led to the Attitude Era
Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
AUSTIN COULD FEEL THE QUANTUM REVERBERATIONS OF MY PROMO TRAVELING BACKWARDS THROUGH TIME, DUDE!
You ain't a time traveller you filthy heathen.
Austin speech didn't shift wrestling culture, Hogan's heel turn did...
Lets put it this way:
One helped shaped a profitable era that will never be topped
The other almost caused a fukking riot and gave a second life to a rival promotion
Both incidents made me marked the hell out, but man....Hogan turning heel wasn't expected at all. It blew the minds of wrestling fans across the world. While Austin 3:16 was crazy for its time, he was put on the backburner until Survivor Series. Meanwhile, Hollywood Hogan was in full effect along with the NWO.
One helped shaped a profitable era that will never be topped
The other almost caused a fukking riot and gave a second life to a rival promotion
Both incidents made me marked the hell out, but man....Hogan turning heel wasn't expected at all. It blew the minds of wrestling fans across the world. While Austin 3:16 was crazy for its time, he was put on the backburner until Survivor Series. Meanwhile, Hollywood Hogan was in full effect along with the NWO.
FooFighters
Superstar
Didn't the curtain call also factor into Austin's speech or am I misremembering?
FooFighters
Superstar
I barely remember JR's heel run.
Not really
. WWE got a little bit of edge from that incident, but nothing on the level of Austin 3:16 because HBK still was a babyface, Hunter got shytted on, and Nash/Hall were out the door. Business as usual with the new generation, but you could see it slowly coming to a end.
FooFighters
Superstar
I think if it didn't happen, Hunter wins the KOR, not Austin but I'm probably wrongNot really