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Breh, you're just dumb:mjlol:

I train MMA, your dumb ass don't understand and fighting and how it has evolved

Mcgregor is gonna beat Aldo easy, his base is boxing

wrestling is good in all, but the shyt is basic compared to a lot of different martial arts

tradional martial arts are harder to master, mma is a watered down version of all the sports

anybody can learn wrestling in a shot period of time

most MMA guys aren't even great wrestlers, outside of Cormier who is elite and he never even one a gold medal
 
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Like I said, grapplers always have an advantage in fights where almost anything goes. If you can't defend a takedown, you're gonna get raped:demonic:
lol at "almost" anything goes.....anything goes you catch these elbows to the spine,punches/elbows to the back of the head,knees to top and back of the head..:ufdup:

Also add the fact the champions you listed train in everything else...you cant just get by with wrestling. When you cant take some one down it all falls apart...


peep Maurice smith vs Mark Coleman...

Wanderlei and Mirko made a career out of it.....
 

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lol at "almost" anything goes.....anything goes you catch these elbows to the spine,punches/elbows to the back of the head,knees to top and back of the head..:ufdup:

Also add the fact the champions you listed train in everything else...you cant just get by with wrestling. When you cant take some one down it all falls apart...


peep Maurice smith vs Mark Coleman...

Wanderlei and Mirko made a career out of it.....


Breh, if anything really goes, the person on the bottom of the takedown will be fukked even worse.
When UFC used to allow headbutts, dudes on the bottom would get destroyed:mjlol:
 

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please don't confuse traditional martial arts with MMA
couture's MMA record is pitiful by the way, but he's a hall of famer

it takes many years to master a martial art you can be an MMA fighter in 3 years of training and turn pro

Couture wrestled, and boxed in the military prior to MMA. He also entered during the late 90s/early 2000's, different era completely and still managed to beat fighters like Ortiz, Liddell, Belfort and Rizzo in their primes. Not to mention the fact that he didn't enter MMA until he was in his 30's. Definitely exceptional, and still able to hang with fighters half his age before retiring. You act as if he lost to bums also. His background along with his genetics, training and work ethic made him be able to take to MMA like a fish in water. Not to mention that in the UFC, fighters with wrestling backgrounds have been dominating since Mark Coleman brought the wrestler ground and pound game to the table. Bruce Lee even stated himself that a man trained in boxing AND wrestling for six months could defeat most traditional martial arts MASTERS in a fight. Well rounded fighters always do better...the evolution of MMA alone proved that. If Couture shot a takedown or hell, even got in with the greco roman clinch, MJW would be food easily.

Oh, and no, McGregor would not beat Aldo easily. Yeah, he has hands, but what's that gonna do when Aldo gives him that Uriah Faber treatment and tenderizes his legs? You take the legs from a boxer and they're fukking done.
 

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Where is your proof of Mcgregors amateur championship? They spew that myth over and over but no proof has ever come to light

The rest of what you say is retarded about mma vs traditional martial arts
 
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Where is your proof of Mcgregors amateur championship? They spew that myth over and over but no proof has ever come to light

The rest of what you say is retarded about mma vs traditional martial arts

I talked to someone who sparred with him in a boxing gym

why is it so hard to believe, it's not like he won any medals, the best amateurs fight in the olympics

you can tell by the way he throws his right cross, he look at his feet when he punches you will see the difference, reason why he's KO guys is because gets power from his legs, throws with leverage
that's why his punches look soft but he KO buys

also is what I said about traditional arts compared to MMA drivel

traditional martial arts school are hard to find, those commercial dojo's you see are not tradional martial arts schools, even though the sensei might be legit, he will probably choose which of those students of any will undergo the real training, which is very brutal, i've only been to ONE REAL martial arts dojo and those nikkaz were crazy,

Bjj is watered down jiu jitsu, it just ease

Traditional Martial Arts is about secrecy anyway, that's why is hard to find a real school

Steven Stegal said he would fight Randy as long as they were no cameras and Randy didn't accept

It takes at least ten years to master a martial art at least

jon jones only trained MMA for years before he went into the UFC

Brock Lesnar who was collegiate wrestler, with no MMA experience, didn't out wrestling Randy, but instead knocked him out with a punch, and he just started training boxing in his MMA camp
but was able to do that to a so called hall of famer

it's not the same

you wont see high level MMA, meaning high skills in all the disciplines until the ten years old now turn to bro, because they're learning everything all at once
 

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I talked to someone who sparred with him in a boxing gym

why is it so hard to believe, it's not like he won any medals, the best amateurs fight in the olympics

you can tell by the way he throws his right cross, he look at his feet when he punches you will see the difference, reason why he's KO guys is because gets power from his legs, throws with leverage
that's why his punches look soft but he KO buys

also is what I said about traditional arts compared to MMA drivel

traditional martial arts school are hard to find, those commercial dojo's you see are not tradional martial arts schools, even though the sensei might be legit, he will probably choose which of those students of any will undergo the real training, which is very brutal, i've only been to ONE REAL martial arts dojo and those nikkaz were crazy,

Bjj is watered down jiu jitsu, it just ease

Traditional Martial Arts is about secrecy anyway, that's why is hard to find a real school

Steven Stegal said he would fight Randy as long as they were no cameras and Randy didn't accept

It takes at least ten years to master a martial art at least

jon jones only trained MMA for years before he went into the UFC

Brock Lesnar who was collegiate wrestler, with no MMA experience, didn't out wrestling Randy, but instead knocked him out with a punch, and he just started training boxing in his MMA camp
but was able to do that to a so called hall of famer

it's not the same

you wont see high level MMA, meaning high skills in all the disciplines until the ten years old now turn to bro, because they're learning everything all at once
:dwillhuh: I also think you're kinda forgetting that MMA is a sport, and not a fighting style. There are tactics that one would use in a controlled environment that wouldn't be good to try on the street, and vice versa. Although the method of being cross trained(like Bruce taught in JKD), has been proven the most effective of all. You wanna know grappling and striking, else you're gonna run into someone eventually who will exploit the holes in your game and wreck you. Jon Jones didn't train long, but he's also genetically gifted and built for the sport. He has the size, speed, reach and leverage to pretty much manhandle the best of his class. He's an exception, but also an athlete. Brock Lesnar, once again, also an athlete, and is physically built for the sport but not mentally due to his fear of getting hit. Had he trained for MMA in his younger years and incorporated more striking and hard sparring into his regimen, he would've done much better. You also can't really hold that loss against Couture because he had come in that fight undersized around 215-220 with Lesnar stepping in that cage round 280+ easy after rehydration, not to mention he had a year+ worth of ring rust and was already well into his 40's. I can't stand when people base a fighter's entire career off of how they perform when they're much older and declining.

As far as Steven Segal :russ: He's always been known as one of the biggest frauds and bullies in the martial arts world. Couture would fukking murder dude. Segal would only step to stunt men and co stars on set, but when legit martial artists called him out throughout the years he'd be on :whoa: Gene Lebell choked him out and made him piss himself for bullying people on set and hell, even fukking JCVD pulled his skirt up, if Couture accepted best believe Segal would have every excuse to back out.

BJJ is watered down? :russ: More like modified to be more effective in actual combat situations, from the street to the ring. shyt's been beyond field tested from jump. This is kinda why it dominated in the early style vs. style ufc events where you had all sorts of TMA people. If that's the case, why didn't cats like Steven Segal come out the woodwork and dominate? :ohhh:

Also, I think you're buying way too much into McGregor's hype train :russ: Oh wow, he's fast and has heavy hands :gladbron: We'll see how he can try to close the distance against Aldo, but I think he's gonna get kicked and knee'd to shyt trying. :manny: It's gonna be hilarious to see that train get derailed real quick..
 
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:dwillhuh: I also think you're kinda forgetting that MMA is a sport, and not a fighting style. There are tactics that one would use in a controlled environment that wouldn't be good to try on the street, and vice versa. Although the method of being cross trained(like Bruce taught in JKD), has been proven the most effective of all. You wanna know grappling and striking, else you're gonna run into someone eventually who will exploit the holes in your game and wreck you. Jon Jones didn't train long, but he's also genetically gifted and built for the sport. He has the size, speed, reach and leverage to pretty much manhandle the best of his class. He's an exception, but also an athlete. Brock Lesnar, once again, also an athlete, and is physically built for the sport but not mentally due to his fear of getting hit. Had he trained for MMA in his younger years and incorporated more striking and hard sparring into his regimen, he would've done much better. You also can't really hold that loss against Couture because he had come in that fight undersized around 215-220 with Lesnar stepping in that cage round 280+ easy after rehydration, not to mention he had a year+ worth of ring rust and was already well into his 40's. I can't stand when people base a fighter's entire career off of how they perform when they're much older and declining.

As far as Steven Segal :russ: He's always been known as one of the biggest frauds and bullies in the martial arts world. Couture would fukking murder dude. Segal would only step to stunt men and co stars on set, but when legit martial artists called him out throughout the years he'd be on :whoa: Gene Lebell choked him out and made him piss himself for bullying people on set and hell, even fukking JCVD pulled his skirt up, if Couture accepted best believe Segal would have every excuse to back out.

BJJ is watered down? :russ: More like modified to be more effective in actual combat situations, from the street to the ring. shyt's been beyond field tested from jump. This is kinda why it dominated in the early style vs. style ufc events where you had all sorts of TMA people. If that's the case, why didn't cats like Steven Segal come out the woodwork and dominate? :ohhh:

Also, I think you're buying way too much into McGregor's hype train :russ: Oh wow, he's fast and has heavy hands :gladbron: We'll see how he can try to close the distance against Aldo, but I think he's gonna get kicked and knee'd to shyt trying. :manny: It's gonna be hilarious to see that train get derailed real quick..

You don't know what you're talking about

a traditional martial artsit would never compete in somthing like MMA for one

jon jones is an okay athlete, he sucked at sports when he was in schools, his brothers were the ones who were gifted

after three years of training don't matter how good an athlete you are, you're not gonna good enough to use martial arts against a martial arts master

and it's not just jones plenty of guys come off the street train MMA for years, and I see MMA I mean they've never fought before and started going to an MMA gym to train

somebody in their mid 20's can start training right now, and be in the UFC in three years, that can happen has happened

brock lesnar is a joke, he's a good athlete not a fighter, the fact he was able to become champion hurted the sport

BJJ is watered down jiu jitsui, you learn way more shyt in tradional jiu jitsui, it' a killing art used by Samurai, BJJ just modified some of the moves so a small person could use leverage on opponent

in BJJ fight its a ground fight, jiu jitsui is a complete martial art that has Strikes, Take Downs, plus the ground stuff and his much harder than master. You have guys in the UFC who aren't even BJJ black belts, like conor Mcgregor, since you wanna bring him up

I don't know if he will beat Aldo, all I'm saying he has better foot work than a lot of the MMA guys and better technique with his punches

he probably will knock aldo out though, aldo hasnt looked that good to me his last two fights

there's no proof gene did that stegal, or that stegal is fraud, he might be he might not

stegal is a boarder patrol, so he doesn't mind risking his life

randy could have easily accepted the fade and told poeple what happned
 
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People really think a 57 year old Dolph wouldn't get his shyt pushed in by Michael Jai White :mjlol: :wtf:? It's obvious a lot of you cats don't know dikk about fighting, or even general sports/athleticism/physical deterioration concepts with that thinking :pachaha:.

Like the vast majority of 200 + lbs, credible modern martial artists, he'd crush Bruce Lee too.
 
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