what yall consider yall second home?

[MR. SNIFLES]

Columbus because I graduated from The Ohio State University

fukk OHIO STATE!!!

 

[mson]

Yeah most of them are Syrians christians etc... but there's a lot of muslims too. Not Moroccan though, my mom met my pops in Canada So on her side I'm not Arabic-Haitian .. just Haitian. Also I don't consider Moroccans all that arabic since we had our own culture before the arabization of Morocco by the french. The new king is embracing Morocco's berber roots heavy now.

Even though to Haitians anything lighter than brown is considered Blanc. How is Morocco?

 

[Chesirecatdaddy]

Even though to Haitians anything lighter than brown is considered Blanc. How is Morocco?

Shiieeet you can be called blanc even if you're brown cuh. Last time I went to Haiti I overheard some lil street kids saying me and family ain't real Haitians cuz we're from America LOLOLOL. You been to Haiti? The food is GOAT! Morocco is the shyt.. it's beautiful... weather like southern cali. The women are beautiful and it's very open they got one of the world's largest malls now shyt is developing fast while retaining it's culture.

 

[mson]

Shiieeet you can be called blanc even if you're brown cuh. Last time I went to Haiti I overheard some lil street kids saying me and family ain't real Haitians cuz we're from America LOLOLOL. You been to Haiti? The food is GOAT! Morocco is the shyt.. it's beautiful... weather like southern cali. The women are beautiful and it's very open they got one of the world's largest malls now shyt is developing fast while retaining it's culture.

I been to Haiti. Yes, they will call you American if you wasn't born and raised there.

 

[BlvdBrawler]

Sedona.

 

[mbewane]

Yeah most of them are Syrians christians etc... but there's a lot of muslims too. Not Moroccan though, my mom met my pops in Canada So on her side I'm not Arabic-Haitian .. just Haitian. Also I don't consider Moroccans all that arabic since we had our own culture before the arabization of Morocco by the french. The new king is embracing Morocco's berber roots heavy now.

The French arabized Morocco breh? That would be a first, the French pushing another culture than french in their colonies...Sure it wasn't the spreading of Islam that took place a couple centuries before, just like in the rest of Northern Africa?

 

[Chesirecatdaddy]

The French arabized Morocco breh? That would be a first, the French pushing another culture than french in their colonies...Sure it wasn't the spreading of Islam that took place a couple centuries before, just like in the rest of Northern Africa?

Do a little research, when I mean arabized I mean the berber language was no longer taught in school and the joining of the Arab League... people began to refer to themselves as Arabs as in middle eastern. Yes I know Arab is not a race but a linguistic group but I mean specifically that the culture was lost and ursurped by Arab culture. The spreading of Islam was just the spread of religion and language, if you at history during the spread of Islam each countries borders and and customs were left intact for the most part. It wasn't until the Rif war where the french helped the bedoiuns beat Spain (with with the help of Senegal also) that The king gave into pressure toremove the french colonial presence in Morocco by using arabization. Also it's my mistake I should've wrote that it was as a result of being ruled by the french whom referred to moroccans as arabs

 

[Chesirecatdaddy]

double post

 

[Illeye buckmatic]

fukk OHIO STATE!!!

You mad I got a degree from there and you don't got a GED

#struggleIQ

 

[mbewane]

Do a little research, when I mean arabized I mean the berber language was no longer taught in school and the joining of the Arab League... people began to refer to themselves as Arabs as in middle eastern. Yes I know Arab is not a race but a linguistic group but I mean specifically that the culture was lost and ursurped by Arab culture. The spreading of Islam was just the spread of religion and language, if you at history during the spread of Islam each countries borders and and customs were left intact for the most part. It wasn't until the Rif war where the french helped the bedoiuns beat Spain (with with the help of Senegal also) that The king gave into pressure toremove the french colonial presence in Morocco by using arabization. Also it's my mistake I should've wrote that it was as a result of being ruled by the french whom referred to moroccans as arabs

Yeah I understand that, but I don't really understand how it was the French that pushed the arabization...I understand that they did not teach the berber language, but I guess it would've been in favor of the french language more than the arab language...I also believe that to this day local languages in North Africa still have a hard time (berber, rif, tamachek and others)...an Algerian poet (Slimane Benaissa) I saw once at a conference said that the use of formal Arab by the elites was a way of keeping the others out of education/power and severing ties with the past.

Nvm, I admit I have very little knowledge about all of this.

But yeah, I agree that calling Moroccans (and other Northern Africans) "Arabs" is an error, unfortunately most young Europeans of moroccan descent refer to themselves like that too, further enforcing the confusion.

 

[Chesirecatdaddy]

Yeah I understand that, but I don't really understand how it was the French that pushed the arabization...I understand that they did not teach the berber language, but I guess it would've been in favor of the french language more than the arab language...I also believe that to this day local languages in North Africa still have a hard time (berber, rif, tamachek and others)...an Algerian poet (Slimane Benaissa) I saw once at a conference said that the use of formal Arab by the elites was a way of keeping the others out of education/power and severing ties with the past.

Nvm, I admit I have very little knowledge about all of this.

But yeah, I agree that calling Moroccans (and other Northern Africans) "Arabs" is an error, unfortunately most young Europeans of moroccan descent refer to themselves like that too, further enforcing the confusion.

there's an old documentary on youtube that really gets into that. At the end of the day it was the king who used that strategy so he is to blame, but honestly I don't see what other options he had. It's because of that choice that Morocco is a mix of old and new today. Most likely the french would've turned morocco to st tropez. Yes it's true language affects a lot things and is definitely a tool that can be used to achieve certain results. Moroccans in europe call themselves that because they're just parroting what europeans have been calling them for decades. Now the new young Moroccans from the homeland know better and there is a backlash against it. Hence now you have berber channels on tv and etc which is a huge win. The whole thing is confusing really, on one hand Moroccans are not arabs and on the other hand the first arabs before the red arabs) were black and were physically indistinguishable from sub saharan africans.. but modern revesionist history has almost erased this fact completely.

 

[mbewane]

there's an old documentary on youtube that really gets into that. At the end of the day it was the king who used that strategy so he is to blame, but honestly I don't see what other options he had. It's because of that choice that Morocco is a mix of old and new today. Most likely the french would've turned morocco to st tropez. Yes it's true language affects a lot things and is definitely a tool that can be used to achieve certain results. Moroccans in europe call themselves that because they're just parroting what europeans have been calling them for decades. Now the new young Moroccans from the homeland know better and there is a backlash against it. Hence now you have berber channels on tv and etc which is a huge win. The whole thing is confusing really, on one hand Moroccans are not arabs and on the other hand the first arabs before the red arabs) were black and were physically indistinguishable from sub saharan africans.. but modern revesionist history has almost erased this fact completely.

This is great tbh, I've been studying relations between languages, power, identity and so on for some time now and it's HUGE that people "get back" to their own local languages.

I have this Algerian friend and she told me that from what she heard from family the traditional algerian community was/is MUCH closer to sub-saharean Africa than to the Middle-East/Arab world but that the combined effects of indeed the French calling them "Arabs" and money and a stricter brand of Islam coming from Saudi Arabia mainly has led to a schizophrenic situation between older generations that strangely appear more open than the new ones. For example she told me that local brands of Islam were a mix between "standard" Islam and local traditions, like elsewhere in Africa, and that they were bigger on soufism. Another friend in Egypt told me that when she was growing up Egypt was just another Mediterranean country with Italians, Jews, Greeks, Catholics etc and people were speaking all kinds of languages and really open but that now it's totally different. Her stance is basically "I'm Egyptian and African, NOT Arab" (she also lived in the Emirates so she knows), and she says she kind of doesn't fell home there anymore.

 

[Poitier]

LOL this thread turned into a HL thread quick as fukk while HL threads turn into TLR threads

 

[Sad Bunny]

Philly is my home

Baltimore is my 2nd home

Spent 2 years down there and I love Bmore

 

[Malta]

Salvador, Brazil