What superhero has the best lineup of movies

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

i don't think i'm on the same page as you cause it looks like you have a real specific view of it. i feel you on asm2 but not on superman returns.

plus i'll be honest i was never huge into comics. i've probably read less than 5 comics in my lifetime. as a kid i was mainly big into the cartoons (and i collected all the marvel cards too) so my knowledge and exposure stemmed from that.

it really all stems on what your definitive versions of the characters are. somewhere out there is a 15 year old kid who's definitive version of the x-men is the 2000 movie... but to any of us that probably sounds like sacrilege. so while we probably went into that movie looking for something that brought us back to the 90's cartoon the new generation of kids were just soaking it in.

Very true.

The superman returns thing is this

• Most accurately smug and jerky lex luthor ever....flawless performance
• The scene where he's saving the airplane and the space shuttle = classic superman move including landing in the stadium
• When hes all weak going to the sun to recharge was vintage superman...some shot for shot stuff there
• Him acting clumsy/goofy as clarj was great clark kent work
• His desire to find out more about krypton hadnt been explored in film either
• The bullet to the eye

A lot of it, even with its major flaws felt like a live action...action comics

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

superman returns could have (and would have) been an amazing movie if:

- it weren't directed by bryan singer
- it was made to be it's own thing and not a richard donner rehash

you say it felt like the comics come to life but for me i couldn't get past brandon routh. wasn't a believable superman to me. always felt like i was looking at a dude dressed as superman rather than superman. took me out of the movie.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

@Ed MOTHEREFFING G just out of curiosity who is your favorite superhero (or superhero group) and what version of them defines the character to you? and how old were you at the time?

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

@Ed MOTHEREFFING G just out of curiosity who is your favorite superhero (or superhero group) and what version of them defines the character to you? and how old were you at the time?

EDIT: #1 is Lex Luthor BY FAR and the best version is anything post crisis, and DCAU versions. And Kevin Spacey Luthor....but for heroes:

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it bounces between Superman and Shazam

I was introduced to Superman in the "The Man of Steel" continunity as a kid (it came out in 86, i picked up sometime between that, and death of superman in 92...so between 3 and 9). This is a more currently common backstory of him crashing to earth, adopted by the kents, he was born IN america [sent as a fetus], he gets a job at the daily planet, woos lois (who is an aggressive reporter), Luthor is a businessman [not a mad scientist although he is a genius] etc. Its the continuity most know now but really isn't the most commonly used. Going back to the superman returns conversation; regarding issue two of Man of Steel:

Byrne made a small change to his original plans for the issue because of real world events. During Superman's public debut, he was originally going to save a landing space-shuttle. After the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, however, the Constitution was changed to "an experimental space-plane."[21] In Bryan Singer's 2006 Film, "Superman Returns," one can see this scenario played out, save for a single difference, it happens to an average airplane.
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Like I said, its really true to the comics.

Most animated versions of superman ring true to this continuity.


The other is Shazam. And I was introduced to Shazam much later in life maybe as a teenager. I really like the idea that Shazam IS A CHILD. That he is a poor, broke orphan and was taking serious Ls but had a heart of gold..that a wizard gave him his powers and that he is radically different from all other heroes. He has so much potential that DC squanders in waves that only Jeff Smith and Alex ross really seem to care about...i was introduced to him by Kingdom Come in 96/97, and kept my eyes on the charactor to see if DC cared.

The best adapatation of the charactor is oddly the recent animated versions, and Jeff Smith's Billy Batson and the Magic of Shazam:

it is childish, kiddy, and thats cool; thats what shazam should be or could be to me. Its also why I think dc has maybe the best comic movie ever on its hands and doesn't know it.

Shazam can be that ^, and can be the version we've seen as of late in Young Justice or in Justice League Unlimited. The charactor is incredible.

3rd would be spiderman but there are so many different versions IDK if theres a best version. My favorite are Pre Clone Saga, and Post Brand New Day

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

i'm glad you said the john byrne superman. because to me that is also the definitive superman.

when someone says superman, i think this:

that's how he looked on all the toys, on the merchandise, etc. that is the image of superman that defined the character for me as a child.

and so you could understand why i had trouble buying:

he looks too boyish.

plus there's just something that's too oddly different about the suit.

and i never really fukked wit shazam but i've seen you post about him before and i gotta say you got me excited about the possibilities for the movie.

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

i'm glad you said the john byrne superman. because to me that is also the definitive superman.

when someone says superman, i think this:

that's how he looked on all the toys, on the merchandise, etc. that is the image of superman that defined the character for me as a child.

and so you could understand why i had trouble buying:

he looks too boyish.

plus there's just something that's too oddly different about the suit.

and i never really fukked wit shazam but i've seen you post about him before and i gotta say you got me excited about the possibilities for the movie.

good point. they tried to get a bootleg christopher reeve as a template and failed.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

good point. they tried to get a bootleg christopher reeve as a template and failed.

probably singer's boytoy

 

[MartyMcFly]

I know a little about superman so seeing you two talk shop is fascinating :isthatall:

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

I know a little about superman so seeing you two talk shop is fascinating :isthatall:

Your thoughts?

 

[MartyMcFly]

Your thoughts?

I feel like superman works really well when his character is intact and it think superman returns for all of it's faults got the character right. Man of steel also to a degree with only a few things off but that's with my limited knowledge of the character. He works best when he has to struggle with something human. He's the most powerful guy on the planet so you have to give him a struggle that comes with that power. That comes with being able to do as much as he can but not be able to do the things we take for granted. The best version of him outside of the comics is the JL and JLA animated stuff.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

I feel like superman works really well when his character is intact and it think superman returns for all of it's faults got the character right. Man of steel also to a degree with only a few things off but that's with my limited knowledge of the character. He works best when he has to struggle with something human. He's the most powerful guy on the planet so you have to give him a struggle that comes with that power. That comes with being able to do as much as he can but not be able to do the things we take for granted. The best version of him outside of the comics is the JL and JLA animated stuff.

I also want to salute the batman/superman comics pre new 52...the relationship between the duo really makes both of their charactors shine. It also made for those really good animated flicks

 

[HHR]

Should've made the poll an "OTHER THAN BATMAN" poll.........because......duh.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Should've made the poll an "OTHER THAN BATMAN" poll.........because......duh.

Then i'd have 14 people bytching who think that spiderman xmen and blade > batman, plus 41 people who would vote their 'second' best....whats the value in that

Plus a couple people who make "Should've made the poll...." which is a hoe ass reply in the firstplace

 

[TKOK]

I think Batman and x men take it, Only real bad Batman movie is B and R, Besides Last Stand, all the x-men movies are good or great..

 

[BXKingPin82]

which is why this thread should be best movies outside X-Men/Spiderman/batman franchises would've made things more interesting

it would right?

But Noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

edit: nevermind
thatd somehow be a bad idea too