What recievers would you take over Prime Michael Irvin?

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I said Irvin was one of the reasons, not the reason.

And again, if you take him away from the Cowboys you basically have the Chiefs of the early 00's. They had one of the most dominant olines in history of the league, the leagues leading rusher, and the best tightend of the generation. But w/o that # 1 WR they never won shyt.

Because of the offensive-similarities that the '00s Chiefs team had to the '90s Cowboys team (minus Irvin), don't make them basically the same team at all. It was never their offense (passing game) that held them back from taking that next step, it was their defense. From 2000-2005 they were amongst the league's worst defenses; whereas that Cowboys era-team had a top 5 defense from 1992-1996.

There's certainly a lot of poor arguments in favor of Irvin in this thread.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Because of the offensive-similarities that the '00s Chiefs teams had to the '90s Cowboys team (minus Irvin), don't make them basically the same team at all. It was never their offense (passing game) that held them back from taking that next step, it was their defense. From 2000-2005 they were amongst the league's worst defenses; whereas that Cowboys era-team had a top 5 defense from 1992-1996.

There's certainly a lot of poor arguments in favor of Irvin in this thread.

Their arguments are poor because they have nothing. They're just like, "Well he's the playmaker and he won rings." Like we measure WRs by their rings and Tim Brown, Cris Carter, Torry ****, Marvin H______n, Isaac Bruce, etc. wouldn't have won rings on that stacked ass Dallas team.

No one's saying Michael Irvin wasn't a great WR, he's just incredibly overrated. He's sorta like the Reggie Miller of football. He had high name recognition, personality, and memorable moments. And he made the HOF while more deserving candidates are still waiting.

That's my only point. I'm not trying to shyt on Irvin. He just should be compared to people like Tim Brown and Isaac Bruce. You can barely even compare him to Cris Carter. Instead, we have people talking about he was clearly the best WR of the 90's mentioning him in the same breath with Jerry Rice (PBUH), Skip Bayless saying he was better than Rice and not getting laughed out of the room by the panel, getting into the HOF in either his 1st or 2nd eligible year and everyone saying he deserves it because he was "the playmaker" while people like Andre Reed, Tim Brown, and Cris Carter are on the bubble, and he made the top 100 players of all time list.

That top 100 players list was How can anyone in their right mind really say Michael Irvin was a top 100 NFL player of all time??? Every other WR on the list revolutionized the game at the WR position...Don Hutson, Paul Warfield, Lance Alworth, and all them old dudes, Rice, Moss. Irvin just performed highly and roughly commeasurate with his peers at the time like Rison, Sharpe, Herman Moore, etc. and clearly wasn't the best WR of his era. T.O. didn't even make the list. Michael Irvin was better than T.O.?

 

[Sulu]

Now take into account the difference in the offenses they played in.

if i was paid and felt the need to do that.. i would... but im not bout to sit here and debate on why torry and bruce are better than irvin

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

Randy Moss
Terrell Owens
Jerry Rice
Larry Fitzgerald
Calvin Johnson
Andre Johnson

 

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google don beebe

Oh fukk...my bad. I meant Marc Kelso. I got them mixed up because they were both small white dudes who played for the Bills who the media dikkrode for being tough and scrappy.

 

[Mook]

Irvin was so nice in the first three seasons his college coach was gonna cut him

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[Amare's Right Hook]

Prime Andre Johnson

 

[Ashyneezz]

are u dumb as fuk? **** wayne and bruce shyt on irvings entire career

So I'm dumb because I don't agree with you saying Torry ****, Reggie Wayne, and Issac Bruce, who all played in very pass happy offenses, are better than Michael Irving, who played with the RB who had more carries than any RB to every play the game.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Rice
TO
Moss
Sterling
Megatron
Bebe Thomas
Fitz

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

Haters gonna Hate

 

[Sulu]

So I'm dumb because I don't agree with you saying Torry ****, Reggie Wayne, and Issac Bruce, who all played in very pass happy offenses, are better than Michael Irving, who played with the RB who had more carries than any RB to every play the game.

yup.. cuz of the simple fact.... **** and bruce were clearly better as far as hands speed route running goes and they put up better numbers ... but thats what opinions are for

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

**** over irvin is pretty shaky...

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

And nobody you listed is CLEARLY better at hands and route running than michael irvin. He wasn't a statistical monster but he deserves a place just below tier zero guys. When they both played I thought carter was better, but he was better than the tier below that. You guys are talking like he's herman moore...

 

[ghostwriterx]

Oh fukk...my bad. I meant Marc Kelso. I got them mixed up because they were both small white dudes who played for the Bills who the media dikkrode for being tough and scrappy.

Nobody dikkrode Bebee, he just got props for chasing down Lett, but he was a bust and was called out for it in Buffalo. Kelso always got that, "He's not the fast, but he's so smart that he's always in the right position."

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

I see a lot of young nikkas in here aint never seen Sterling Sharpe play. Yall think its laughable to put Sterling over Irvin?

I can't take yall seriously