What really went wrong with TNA/Impact Wrestling

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

the wrestling community never wanted TNA to succeed.

they put in more than enough work, outshining the WWE for years. they should've already been big enough to the point where they wouldn't have felt the need to bring in Hogan/bischoff in 2010.

"wrestling fans" need to look in the mirror & blame themselves when it comes to TNA.

 

[CM_Burns]

It's not Bischoff/Hogan. They were on a good run of like 3-4 months before Bischoff/Hogan came in, but before that they had a couple years of hit-and-miss TV and PPVs with some really stupid booking at times.

They had some real momentum throughout 2006 that they fukked up, and I think this is one of the times where you can actually blame Russo. They were building momentum all throughout 2006 to the point that there were TNA chants at WWE shows during bad segments, they had back to back PPVs do 50-60k buys, they had 3k people for BFG, then a few things happened. They did a bunch of heel turns with Joe/Angle that didn't really work, then they made Christian the heel champ and AJ Styles super goofy. The tag division that was so hot during 2006 became just OK when Styles/Daniels and AMW broke up, and LAX cooled off some due to working with nobodies or teams just collecting a check (Dudleys).

And then Sting vs Abyss. That was their top angle or co-top angle from the end of 2006 to spring 2007 and it sums up their downfall at the time. Fire Russo chants during a match with a crowd that usually loved everything, Abyss' mom coming out, so much goofy sh1t. 2007-2010 when Hogan came in they stayed around a 1, but their momentum was gone, they didn't go any further, probably because word of mouth stopped being good. If a million people watch and most people love the show, the audience will grow. If a million people watch and most people think the show is OK, hit-and-miss, or watch out of habit, then the audience isn't going to grow.

The Hogan years had some good points here and there, they also had sh1t like aces n 8s and Joker Sting though.

 

[CM_Burns]

the wrestling community never wanted TNA to succeed.

they put in more than enough work, outshining the WWE for years. they should've already been big enough to the point where they wouldn't have felt the need to bring in Hogan/bischoff in 2010.

"wrestling fans" need to look in the mirror & blame themselves when it comes to TNA.

I didnt follow the IWC or wrestling in 2005, but 2006 people were positive about TNA and wanted them to grow. The IWC was overly hard on a hit-and-miss TNA from 07-09, and would treat OK PPVs like they were terrible because a few young guys lost or there was a dumb segment, yea. But 2006 up to Angle coming in and Bound For Glory TNA had a lot of people behind them.

 

[stro]

It's a permanently damaged brand. It's essentially an entirely new company now and it still can't escape the past. They can rebrand, fire more people, hire more people, doesn't matter. It's always going to be loltna no matter the quality.

 

[Mr. Negative]

Hogan

 

[RammerJammer]

the wrestling community never wanted TNA to succeed.

they put in more than enough work, outshining the WWE for years. they should've already been big enough to the point where they wouldn't have felt the need to bring in Hogan/bischoff in 2010.

"wrestling fans" need to look in the mirror & blame themselves when it comes to TNA.

I definitely think there's some blame to go around now, Impact has entirely new management, no Dixie, no Hogan, no Bischoff, no Russo. Don Callis has done that company some good but 2019 Impact is unfairly judged by 2010-2011 TNA.

 

[Reality Check]

Have a couple hours to spare? LOLTNA has the answer

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This pretty much is the answer of the question. So many things on there as to why that TNA/Impact Wrestling stench will never go away no matter how much the people in charge now change. To me, the two biggest reasons overall why they have failed spectacularly was their insistence that J-E-Double J-A-Double -E-Double was a Main Event Level talent who could carry the company (his reign of terror is arguably worse than Triple H's) and the horrific mismanagement of the company by Dixie Carter.

 

[K-Apps]

Dixie Carter, the end.

 

[StraxStrax]

going on TNA and getting seen by millions

:sean_:

 

[Broad Street Bully]

It's a permanently damaged brand. It's essentially an entirely new company now and it still can't escape the past. They can rebrand, fire more people, hire more people, doesn't matter. It's always going to be loltna no matter the quality.

shyt sad but true

 

[JerseyBoy23]

:sean_:

They have deals in India, UK, Brazil, Canada, and Germany to name a few.

 

[JerseyBoy23]

This pretty much is the answer of the question. So many things on there as to why that TNA/Impact Wrestling stench will never go away no matter how much the people in charge now change. To me, the two biggest reasons overall why they have failed spectacularly was their insistence that J-E-Double J-A-Double -E-Double was a Main Event Level talent who could carry the company (his reign of terror is arguably worse than Triple H's) and the horrific mismanagement of the company by Dixie Carter.

We also can’t ignore that so many people are WWE stans that they let the E get away with things that they would shyt on TNA about.

 

[Coco Brown]

It's a permanently damaged brand. It's essentially an entirely new company now and it still can't escape the past. They can rebrand, fire more people, hire more people, doesn't matter. It's always going to be loltna no matter the quality.

That's a hard pill to swallow but it's the truth. Impact is always going to be battling the ghost of TNA's past missteps and, for the most part, coming up short because the whole "loltna" thing casts a really long shadow. Every mistake they make and misstep they take is always going to be "proof" of their dysfunction for a lot of people. It's unfair but you can only damage a brand so much and so many times before the damage is permanent.

I know that blaming Dixie is picking low hanging fruit but...ultimately she gotta hold a lot of the L's TNA took. Talent wise, they've always been in relatively good shape. Even in their weakest years, they had enough good talent on the roster to have the ability to put on good matches and good shows. I feel like it was always management and/or creative running the train off tracks.

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

Once Dixie took control of the company & let Hogan run things it was beginning of the end.

Bringing his friends to hit a lick.

Moving to Monday nights tryna compete with raw.

Not being wise when it came to going on the road.

They were moving too fast too soon & lost for it.

Tna was the last hope for a Indy being on a big network & blew it. Hasn't been the same since.

 

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

I always used to watch it on and off but once they bring in Hogan and EB. Things seem to went down hill.

It's like they took 10 steps toward and then10 steps back

dixie