What Is Your Religious Belief?

[Chesirecatdaddy]

Yall are actually debating?

Just say you have blind faith and it renders Napoleon moot. Stop falling for his attempts

Just want to clear shyt up for people who would actually believe anything that he has to say about Islam. Dude is just parroting shyt that's been claimed online tons and tons of times on countless hate sites.

 

[Chesirecatdaddy]

So...who's in charge after muhammad dies?



The Quran says the moon produces its own light...

Is that true?

Muhammed was never in charge of Islam submission to God. He was a messenger. The Quran was written in a very old form of arabic that is archaic and it doesn't always translate properly. There are different groups that are working on better translations.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Exactly you're not supposed to attack non-beleivers just ignore them. Btw non-beleivers in the Quran are pagans... it's not referring to anyone else.

Whoso disobeyeth Allah and His messenger, lo! his is fire of hell, wherein such dwell for ever.--72:23

1. Don't bother warning the disbelievers. Allah has made it impossible for them to believe so that he can torture them forever after they die. 2:6-7
   
   
   
2. Allah has sickened the hearts of disbelievers and increased their disease. He is a spiritual anti-doctor. 2:10
   
   
   
3. If you try to compose a surah that is better than those in the Quran, and then fail, Allah will burn you forever if you in the fire that he has prepared for disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24
   
   
   
4. Allah will shed human blood while angels praise him in heaven. (The angels question why Allah has to kill people; Allah says they'd understand if they knew everything like he does.) 2:30
   
   
   
5. They who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein." 2:39
   
   
   
6. There will come a day when Allah will refuse all prayers and help no one. 2:48
   
   
   
7. Allah brags about drowning the Egyptian army. 2:50
   
   
   
8. "Whosoever hath done evil and his sin surroundeth him; such are rightful owners of the Fire." 2:81
   
   
   
9. Christians and Jews (who believe in only part of the Scripture), will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next. 2:85
   
   
   
10. "They have incurred anger upon anger. For disbelievers is a shameful doom." 90
    
    
    
11. "For disbelievers is a painful doom." 2:104
    
    
    
12. Allah will make disbelievers' lives miserable in this world and torture them forever after they die. 2:114
    
    
    
13. "And thou wilt not be asked about the owners of hell-fire." (They are the non-muslims.) 2:119
    
    
    
14. Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126
    
    
    
15. The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162
    
    
    
16. "On the day when they behold the doom and all their aims collapse with them ... Allah is severe punishment!" 2:165-6
    
    
    
17. They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167
    
    
    
18. Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174
    
    
    
19. How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175
    
    
    
20. "Fight in the way of Allah." 2:190, 2:244

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You shape your views on Islam on what you see in the media,.

I've read the quran

which only focuses on hard-liners and extremists.

Wahhabi islam has been around since the 1700s

At it's highest point the Islamic society was the most socially progressive.

then the mongols got in that ass...

You know this already, but it seems like your emotions cloud your intellect when it comes to Islam.

Just like this bacon sandwich in my venous tissue

The Quran itself states that not all people who claim they are muslim are actually living by the book and that a good majority are living wrong by following things that are outside the book.

...oh...but you're the arbiter of that?

The Quran breeds submitters to Islam..

that doesn't sound like a good idea...

the rest are deluded by Hadith and Sectarianism. Some of them worship Mohammed as much as the worship God. No Religion is without it's faults

so the hadith is good to follow...if you ignore some of it?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Just want to clear shyt up for people who would actually believe anything that he has to say about Islam. Dude is just parroting shyt that's been claimed online tons and tons of times on countless hate sites.

Breh.

We can go tit-for-tat on that quran.

For isntance...if the Quran was never edited, why did abu bakr hold on to his copy for so long before submitting to Uthman's attempts so streamline the book when he came to power

 

[Mr. Somebody]

What do you believe in?

God, the teachings of Moses, Yeshua and the teachings of Solomon and the demonic database of demonic filth.

 

[Bender Rodriguez]

As for OP's question, I'm an Atheist. The only agent in my reality is me and I claim to know nothing. I'll let the religious people let other people control them and the other Atheist waste their time on a boring subject.

 

[Chesirecatdaddy]

LOL what's this your anti-Islam kit? They're referring to people like you.
btw #9 is completely different than what it actually says.
My job isn't to pick this all apart and convince you.

Whoso disobeyeth Allah and His messenger, lo! his is fire of hell, wherein such dwell for ever.--72:23

1. Don't bother warning the disbelievers. Allah has made it impossible for them to believe so that he can torture them forever after they die. 2:6-7
   
   
   
2. Allah has sickened the hearts of disbelievers and increased their disease. He is a spiritual anti-doctor. 2:10
   
   
   
3. If you try to compose a surah that is better than those in the Quran, and then fail, Allah will burn you forever if you in the fire that he has prepared for disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24
   
   
   
4. Allah will shed human blood while angels praise him in heaven. (The angels question why Allah has to kill people; Allah says they'd understand if they knew everything like he does.) 2:30
   
   
   
5. They who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein." 2:39
   
   
   
6. There will come a day when Allah will refuse all prayers and help no one. 2:48
   
   
   
7. Allah brags about drowning the Egyptian army. 2:50
   
   
   
8. "Whosoever hath done evil and his sin surroundeth him; such are rightful owners of the Fire." 2:81
   
   
   
9. Christians and Jews (who believe in only part of the Scripture), will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next. 2:85
   
   
   
10. "They have incurred anger upon anger. For disbelievers is a shameful doom." 90
    
    
    
11. "For disbelievers is a painful doom." 2:104
    
    
    
12. Allah will make disbelievers' lives miserable in this world and torture them forever after they die. 2:114
    
    
    
13. "And thou wilt not be asked about the owners of hell-fire." (They are the non-muslims.) 2:119
    
    
    
14. Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126
    
    
    
15. The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162
    
    
    
16. "On the day when they behold the doom and all their aims collapse with them ... Allah is severe punishment!" 2:165-6
    
    
    
17. They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167
    
    
    
18. Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174
    
    
    
19. How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175
    
    
    
20. "Fight in the way of Allah." 2:190, 2:244

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

its not hard to understand.

if you follow the quran VERBATIM today, you'd be in jail in maybe 2 hours.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

LOL what's this your anti-Islam kit? They're referring to people like you.
btw #9 is completely different than what it actually says.
My job isn't to pick this all apart and convince you.

teach me brother.

Maybe its a "translation issue"

 

[Chesirecatdaddy]

#9
2:85
Then, you are those [same ones who are] killing one another and evicting a party of your people from their homes, cooperating against them in sin and aggression. And if they come to you as captives, you ransom them, although their eviction was forbidden to you. So do you believe in part of the Scripture and disbelieve in part? Then what is the recompense for those who do that among you except disgrace in worldly life; and on the Day of Resurrection they will be sent back to the severest of punishment. And Allah is not unaware of what you do.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Seventh Day Adventist b

Waste of a saturday

 

[Chesirecatdaddy]

teach me brother.

Maybe its a "translation issue"

I used to lurk here so I've seen your posts... Teach someone who doesn't want to learn? Why argue with a fool. I was simply refuting your claim as to remove an validity to them so that you don't slander this religion on this forum for those who actually would like to learn.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

#9
2:85
Then, you are those [same ones who are] killing one another and evicting a party of your people from their homes, cooperating against them in sin and aggression. And if they come to you as captives, you ransom them, although their eviction was forbidden to you. So do you believe in part of the Scripture and disbelieve in part? Then what is the recompense for those who do that among you except disgrace in worldly life; and on the Day of Resurrection they will be sent back to the severest of punishment. And Allah is not unaware of what you do.

How is THAT different from this?

Christians and Jews (who believe in only part of the Scripture), will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next. 2:85


It even includes the translation.

e.g. if you ain't down with the Allah-Pack, you gonna get snapped.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I used to lurk here so I've seen your posts... Teach someone who doesn't want to learn? Why argue with a fool. I was simply refuting your claim as to remove an validity to them so that you don't slander this religion on this forum for those who actually would like to learn.

Why are you copping pleas?

Defend your religion then. Its not my job to fill in the plot holes for you.