What is white flight and why is it so effective?

[Supercoolmayo]

Can someone explain this to me?

 

[OH SOHH TRILL]

 

[Crakface]

Its when whites pull money from a particular area or move out of a particular area. A corporation may want to set up shop oversees which drives jobs away from a particular region or to many non-whites move into a neighborhood and the white people move out. Its effective because most people depend on white people to employ them, so in their absence, you have fewer options and if they move out your neighborhood, depending on whos in, the neighborhood could be given to people that drive the property values down. When the values go down low enough, whites will kick everyone out and move back in for low low prices.

 

[theworldismine13]

white flight is when white people move out of certain areas

but what happens is that the economics of a city or town is really determined by the level of education of the community, white people tend to be more educated so when they leave the people left are less educated and not able to keep up the area

but IMO black people need to stop over white flight, its a free country and people should live wherever they want to live, i think black people already lost just by over white flight, its intellectually weak to think that way

instead we need to focus our attention inward and focusing on developing our education systems and our areas

 

[Blackking]

well, imo.... It could be a good thing... but

White flight is when ethnically and racially mixed areas (usually urban centers) have a mass exodus of CAC and whites to the surrounding areas. The became a common thing when the was a black exodus from the South the industrial jobs of the North during the 50's 60's 70's.

The problems occur NOT because the CAC population is more educated. And fyi, there are reasons for the education gap-- that do not included black simply are 'anti academic'.

The problems happen because of racial politics and tax dollars. Resources are removed along with white flight. Many of the whites who leave still work in the urban areas of Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo, etc... but then pay taxes and live in the other cac heavy areas. economic restructuring happens in the left behind areas because manufacturing fails and is replaced by service industries. The left behind people can't maintain the property of the area with all the other political fukkery that also ends up happening over the years. Educational, economic, and political disenfranchisement happens after a white flight occurs.

-when you don't own property as a community you suffer... Mortgage and bank discrimination has been found in every case of white flight- banks, government institutions, etc have denied loans n shyt to the black and brown people who populate certain areas. (this helps CAC decades later when they decided to move back in with Gentrification aka white flight back)

-politically -property laws and restrictive convents are maddd slick ways to fukk over blacks and brown people into condensing in to ghettos. Chicago, LA, and NY are known for this. Of course we give 100% of our vote one way anyway, and we aren't usually the funders of politicians so this will always happen.

-drug laws, military representation in 60's , failed industries, drug wars, legal discrimination, police manipulation make the areas--- nearly void of families and males who aren't involved in some type of drug or justice system process.

-for the most part in the south n other areas black legally couldn't move to white areas once whites moved away -1930-1950s. The domino effect of that is felt today. Today the highways roads n shyt are literally designed to block urban people from cac.
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this doesn't have to be a bad thing. life would be better if you had the option to only deal with 'your own' .... but history and mental brainwashing makes our oppression self perpetuating.

 

[theworldismine13]

well, imo.... It could be a good thing... but

White flight is when ethnically and racially mixed areas (usually urban centers) have a mass exodus of CAC and whites to the surrounding areas. The became a common thing when the was a black exodus from the South the industrial jobs of the North during the 50's 60's 70's.

The problems occur NOT because the CAC population is more educated. And fyi, there are reasons for the education gap-- that do not included black simply are 'anti academic'.

The problems happen because of racial politics and tax dollars. Resources are removed along with white flight. Many of the whites who leave still work in the urban areas of Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo, etc... but then pay taxes and live in the other cac heavy areas. economic restructuring happens in the left behind areas because manufacturing fails and is replaced by service industries. The left behind people can't maintain the property of the area with all the other political fukkery that also ends up happening over the years. Educational, economic, and political disenfranchisement happens after a white flight occurs.

-when you don't own property as a community you suffer... Mortgage and bank discrimination has been found in every case of white flight- banks, government institutions, etc have denied loans n shyt to the black and brown people who populate certain areas. (this helps CAC decades later when they decided to move back in with Gentrification aka white flight back)

-politically -property laws and restrictive convents are maddd slick ways to fukk over blacks and brown people into condensing in to ghettos. Chicago, LA, and NY are known for this. Of course we give 100% of our vote one way anyway, and we aren't usually the funders of politicians so this will always happen.

-drug laws, military representation in 60's , failed industries, drug wars, legal discrimination, police manipulation make the areas--- nearly void of families and males who aren't involved in some type of drug or justice system process.

-for the most part in the south n other areas black legally couldn't move to white areas once whites moved away -1930-1950s. The domino effect of that is felt today. Today the highways roads n shyt are literally designed to block urban people from cac.
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this doesn't have to be a bad thing. life would be better if you had the option to only deal with 'your own' .... but history and mental brainwashing makes our oppression self perpetuating.

education is directly tied to income, income is directly tied to tax dollars, so the fundamental problem is education not tax dollars, tax dollars is just a derivative of the education problem

the point is white flight is not really a problem and IMO people should stop describing the education gap (which is the real problem) that way, it shouldn't be described as white flight because it implies that the solution to the problem is to bring white people back in

 

[Matt504]

The business practices of redlining, mortgage discrimination, and racially restrictive covenants contributed to the overcrowding and physical deterioration of areas where minorities chose to congregate. Such conditions are considered to have contributed to the emigration of other populations. The limited facilities for banking and insurance, due to a perceived lack of profitability, and other social services, and extra fees meant to hedge against perceived profit issues increased their cost to residents in predominantly non-white suburbs and city neighborhoods.[14][15] According to the environmental geographer Laura Pulido, the historical processes of suburbanization and urban decentralization contribute to contemporary environmental racism.[16]

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

See the city of Detroit.​

 

[No_bammer_weed]

education is directly tied to income, income is directly tied to tax dollars, so the fundamental problem is education not tax dollars, tax dollars is just a derivative of the education problem

Quality of education is directly tied into property tax....often a few single family homes generates more tax revenues than entire dwellings that are heavily populated. Have you ever compared a public school in the suburbs, to a school in an economically disenfranchised area? Thats just one of the deleterious outcomes of the phenomenon of "white flight"...black people have a fraction of the collective wealth as an artifact of centuries of oppression. This is simply the economic reality of the times.

 

[theworldismine13]

Quality of education is directly tied into property tax....often a few single family homes generates more tax revenues than entire dwellings. Have you ever compared a public school in the suburbs, to a school in an economically disenfranchised area? Thats just one of the deleterious outcomes of the phenomenon of "white flight"...black people have a fraction of the collective wealth as an artifact of centuries of oppression. This is simply the economic reality.

im not saying it doesnt have a bad effect, my point is that there is nothing in what you just said that provides a real solution aside from bringing white people back in, in other words the end point of your pov is that black people cannot develop our communities without white people, its an intellectual and economic dead end

 

[theworldismine13]

one thing you have to be clear about as far as the concept of white flight, is that while its very real, it being formulated as white flight is a white liberal framework, meaning its still white, meaning it still puts white people in the center and in the pilot seat

black people should be wary of an intellectual formulation that puts white people in the middle, imo we need to pursue intellectual formulations that put black people in the center

 

[No_bammer_weed]

im not saying it doesnt have a bad effect, my point is that there is nothing in what you just said that provides a real solution aside from bringing white people back in, in other words the end point of your pov is that black people cannot develop our communities without white people, its an intellectual and economic dead end

There are plenty of solutions and/or attempts at remedy. Its just that conservatives have damaged any conversation about improving the lives of those left behind, with cries of "big government" "socialism", ext. The fact remains that categories of people have a clear and distinct advantage over their cohorts, which is a legacy of generations of socially engineered mistreatment of one group over another. America working at the expense of black people is "just the way it is"...and attempts to mitigate these circumstances always seems to provoke these predictable responses.

 

[theworldismine13]

There are plenty of solutions and/or attempts at remedy. Its just that conservatives have damaged any conversation about improving the lives of those left behind, with cries of "big government" "socialism", ext. The fact remains that categories of people have a clear and distinct advantage over their peers, which is a legacy of generations of socially engineered mistreatment. America working at the expense of black people is "just the way it is"...and attempts to mitigate these circumstances always seems to illicit these predictable responses.

yeah like i said, all the solutions and attempts that you think of involve white people, that is the intellectual and economic dead end im referring to

 

[No_bammer_weed]

yeah like i said, all the solutions and attempts that you think of involve white people, that is the intellectual and economic dead end im referring to

Whats up with all these convenient measures of segregation? Here I am thinking these are problems involving Americans, which should involve solutions from Americans. You're not being intellectually honest of course...

 

[Blackout]

So the solution is us choosing to get white people to give back when they took from us during slavery and segregation and improve together as Americans or separate from them with neo-segregation.

Hmmm.