What is Black American Culture? (inspired by The Salon)

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Interesting because I too am from NY and too am of that breed on my mothers side. I and my mother and cousins are born in NY, but my grandmother and older siblings are from North Carolina. Though they are not of the "Great Migration" generation, but came more recent around the 60s.

Almost my same situation. Father from ny but moms(my grandma) from Raleigh Nc
 

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Great migration was pretty much Texas/Louisiana for California. Mississippi/Arkansas/Tennessee for the Midwest. Virginia/South Carolina/North Carolina for New York and New Jersey.
 

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Great migration was pretty much Texas/Louisiana for California. Mississippi/Arkansas/Tennessee for the Midwest. Virginia/South Carolina/North Carolina for New York and New Jersey.

Georgia and Mississippi also for the West Coast. For the North East you do have a smattering of people with roots in Texas (Prodigy of Mobb deep), Mississippi (Nas for example) and Alabama.
 

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How long has your fathers side of the family been in NY?
My grandfather moved from Charleston to Brooklyn when he was five. My grandma(born and bred country NC girl) met him in a hbcu down south in nc(he was a ball player that went back down on scholarship) and they moved to nyc after that. Had my father in kings county hospital bk than moved to the BX
 

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Would you include creoles into the AA ethnicity?

Yes, we are Afr'Am. Like I said, there are overarching elements to our culture & heritage that pretty general among African-Americans such as the use of red-rice(Oryza glaberrima) in our meals, use of grounded peanuts(goobers) in meals, the combination of Native-American crops with West African cooking techniques to make AA staple dishes like grits and cornbread.

And on music there's the use of strummed folk instruments like Banjo with has documented and recorded being played by African-American in just about every part of the US and Elongated Minor Pentatonic scales with microtonal bent "blue notes" in our melodies ESPECIALLY with the trade marked raspy voices, as well as off-beat accentuation(nuts and bolts of the backbeat which is also unique to all forms of AA music and not found in other Afro-diasporan music types)


(You certainly wont find anything like that among Haitians or Martiniqueans)

^^^^Much of this has to with the common rice, cattle, cotton culture that the economic landscape of North America demanded on slave industry regardless of it was being administered by French, Spanish, or English unlike in the Caribbean and South America were Sugar & Mining where the bread and butter of the economy. Slavers in French Louisiana are noted in specifically trying to recreated the model of rice plantations of the English/British administered southern atlantic coast upon seeing their success so they could compete. So, as it was be a large number of Upper West Africans slave from the Sudan and Sahel regions were imported into the colonies and much of AA culture, if traced back, to pre-transatlantic era is rooted in the traditions of the Sudan and the Sahel. And if that wasn't enough there was the domestic slave trading once the US republic procured lands formerly under the thumb of European colonialism. The amount of people involved in this movement of slaves was even greater than that of the Transatlantic slave trade. So, no Texas nor Louisiana Africans/AA were ever in isolation from other African/AAs in other parts of the colonial or antebellum US.

And like @IllmaticDelta said there's also the common influence of the Church traditions as well.

What about descendants of free blacks or descendants of black immigrants that have been here for generations?

"Free blacks", yes. Non-AA immigrants, No.
 
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My grandfather moved from Charleston to Brooklyn when he was five. My grandma(born and bred country NC girl) met him in a hbcu down south in nc(he was a ball player that went back down on scholarship) and they moved to nyc after that. Had my father in kings county hospital bk than moved to the BX

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And on music there's the use of strummed folk instruments like Banjo with has documented and recorded being played by African-American in just about every part of the US and Elongated Pentatonic scales with microtonal bent "blue notes" in our melodies ESPECIALLY with the trade marked raspy voices, as well as off-beat accentuation(nuts and bolts of the backbeat which is also unique to all forms of AA music and not found in other Afro-diasporan music types)


(You certainly wont find anything like that among Haitians or Martiniqueans)

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A few more on the the rural Franco African and Anglo African Americans
















 

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Asian Americans are Americans with roots in Asia





AfroAmerican is used as the same way one uses Asian-American. The meaning straight from the AfroAmerican that coined the term

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Timothy Thomas Fortune

"In Chicago on January 25, 1890 Fortune co-founded the militant National Afro-American League to right wrongs against African Americans authorized by law and sanctioned or tolerated by public opinion. The league fell apart after four years. When it was revived in Rochester, New York on September 15, 1898, it had the new name of the "National Afro-American Council", with Fortune as President. • The National Afro-American Council - the first nationwide civil rights organization in the United States. • Provided a training ground for some of the nation’s most famous civil rights leaders in the 1910s, 1920s, and beyond. • The Council lobbied actively for the passage of a federal anti-lynching law and raised funds to finance a court test against the “grandfather clause” in Louisiana. Fortune was also the leading advocate of using Afro-American to identify his people. Since they are "African in origin and American in birth", it was his argument that it most accurately defined them."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Thomas_Fortune




They are Afro-Americans, exactly what the definition states




African descent is the only requirement. After that, if you look "white" it's a matter of how you identify. Most "white" looking AfroAmericans self indentify/came from a long line of fair skinned self identified "AfroAmericans".





See the T T Fortune post:troll:

Your talking dumb shyt breh.

African American is a race, and is not an ethnic distinction.

1.
an ethnic group; a social group that shares a common and distinctive culture, religion, language, or the like:
Representatives of several ethnicities were present.

We do not share any of this with African people.

We do share all of that with other Americans
 
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