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imagine bron trying half that shyt jordan did in mid air
nikka would drop like an anchor
nikka would drop like an anchor
What does Michael Jordan do better than LeBron besides score?
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imagine bron trying half that shyt jordan did in mid air
Why should that surprise anyone? Michael's heaviest playing weight was 216 and his early years were under 200. LeBron was playing at probably 270 in Miami and has been playing no lighter than 250 for probably the last decade.
how many of those did he push off or bulldoze through the defender when he made his move and how many did he actually go AROUND the defender
Bron getting to the hoop is more a function of his force and size than finesse or skill
his game ugly already, is he going to adjust his game like the GOAT when his athleticism wanes and become a mid range assassin, still able to drop 30 a game and get scoring titles and be able to come back in his late, LATE thirties(38-40) and still be able to drop 40 and 50 on nikkas' heads
prolly not
he's gonna fall off a cliff sooner rather than later, unless he keeps getting his special "treatment" in Miami
People keep saying this. Lebron just put up 26/8/8 despite his waning athleticism and the fact that he has more minutes played than Jordan.
He's already a monster in the post, almost always needing a double. He's a great off-ball player, he's been putting up great shooting numbers, and he's still an ungodly good passer even with his lowered athletic ability.
Roland Coltrane
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there were two distinct phases to MJ's game and everybody here knows what they were; the terrorizing slasher who got to the rim at all cost and the more nuanced mid-range assassin. Nobody is scared of Bron's jumper b. Bron hasn't and won't change his game to that degree when his athleticism starts to wane. He'll always be one of the biggest dudes out there relative to his position but he won't always be the fastest.
and all isn't to say MJ still wasn't a beast athletically in his mid thirties, but he knew he had to become more efficient in order to expend less energy. You think Russell Westbrook is going to be able to play the way he does presently and sustain it for his whole career? You have to be able to adapt and adjust to continue to be successful, and unlike you I just don't see Bron doing that, presently, or in the future.
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Trece
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Nothing...he's 54
Mental toughness and IQ (and that is really saying something about Mike). Bron's the closest thing to Mike we've seen but still no cigar. His only shot is longevity.
One thing that you cannot question about Bron is his heart. And walking, talking, and shooting like someone doesn't mean you are built like them. Jordan beats both guys in mental toughness and intelligence.
The ONLY thing you can question about Bron is his heart.. FOH with trying to paint this man as fearless. He had to see a shrink after the 2011 finals.. that alone should dead this dumb ass comparison..
You think Gloria James showed this cat how to be a man??
I know Bron stans cringe when they hear this but it is true no denying the role fathers play in their sons upbringing.
Trece
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When Kyrie is your clutch player and we in here trying to talk about Brons heart?
FOH he folds on big moments simple as that
MalikX
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Nothing. Don't forget that the league had 15% more white people that it does now. Imagine taking out 15% of the black people in the NBA and replacing them with white American born players. LeGM would be going crazy.
Jordan was Playing in the finals being guarded by Dan M. How he made a defense team was a joke only because the suns record was so good. See 2015 ATL when they had 4 all stars.
Imagine someone like Nik Stauskus trying to guard LeGM in the finals.
Jordan was shytting on nikkas at 40. Shut up.
Cats like you been saying he's going to fall off a cliff for a while now. When he does it will be after 15 plus years of dominating so if that's falling off I feel that is the natural progression for someone who was drafted at 18.how many of those did he push off or bulldoze through the defender when he made his move and how many did he actually go AROUND the defender
Bron getting to the hoop is more a function of his force and size than finesse or skill
his game ugly already, is he going to adjust his game like the GOAT when his athleticism wanes and become a mid range assassin, still able to drop 30 a game and get scoring titles and be able to come back in his late, LATE thirties(38-40) and still be able to drop 40 and 50 on nikkas' heads
prolly not
he's gonna fall off a cliff sooner rather than later, unless he keeps getting his special "treatment" in Miami
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Pass me the rock nikka
MJ has him beat in footwork and midrange shooting, he just the greatest scoring machine the game has ever seen.
LeBron is the better passer, assists numbers don't even do LeBron justice in terms of his ability to see over the top of defenses, create ball movement, create three point looks, his knowledge of players hot spots and shooting pockets.
Defensively prime for prime it's a wash, LeBron was a perennial DPoY candidate and could defend more positions than Mike and is one of the best help defenders and he's the best transition defender ever The Block showed us that. It looks like Mike will have greater defensive longevity because with his workload LeBron can only be an elite defender in spurts now. To be fair MJ in the second 3-Peat would get dusted by quicker players like Iverson, Grant Hill, Abdul-Rauf, Damon Stoudamire, etc. And his weakest part defensively was his post defense that's something actual tall guards like Clyde, Penny, Magic would try to exploit.
I kinda wish LeBron played in the 80's I don't think y'all realize how much more dominant LeBron would be and what numbers he could put up if zone defense was banned.
LeBron is the better passer, assists numbers don't even do LeBron justice in terms of his ability to see over the top of defenses, create ball movement, create three point looks, his knowledge of players hot spots and shooting pockets.
Defensively prime for prime it's a wash, LeBron was a perennial DPoY candidate and could defend more positions than Mike and is one of the best help defenders and he's the best transition defender ever The Block showed us that. It looks like Mike will have greater defensive longevity because with his workload LeBron can only be an elite defender in spurts now. To be fair MJ in the second 3-Peat would get dusted by quicker players like Iverson, Grant Hill, Abdul-Rauf, Damon Stoudamire, etc. And his weakest part defensively was his post defense that's something actual tall guards like Clyde, Penny, Magic would try to exploit.
I kinda wish LeBron played in the 80's I don't think y'all realize how much more dominant LeBron would be and what numbers he could put up if zone defense was banned.
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Art Barr
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Lebron is not a better passer than mj and mj was better playing at Lebron's natural position of pg that bron shirked.
LeBron would suffer in any era of nba defense because he lacks pedigree.
While jordan was the original dominant zone buster in college along with his guard of guys.
If bron had anywhere near jordan's iq or ability against against zone.
Bron would be undefeated in the finals.
Plus would never have gotten upended and needed to get help versus rhe Boston ghost zone.
Not to mention bron lacks any ability to win against teams with a pedigreed dominant team led big in the finals as well.
Whereas I know mj was going to beat the same west coast teams that owned him his entire career when they played in rhe finals.
With bron, I know versus a pedigreed big with equal pedigreed coaching bron is going down unless rey rey is there to bail him out.
With mj I know he is not struggling like bron nor getting owned to the point people are carting out trophies mid game either.
Bron is such a consistent loser everyone knows in general to shine up the trophy for the higher iq team before the series even begins.
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Lebron literally does nothing better than MJ
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Pass me the rock nikka
You basing that off MJ's PG stretch under Doug Collins where he statpadded his way to triple doubles a la Russell Westbrook. LeBron had a similar stretch during the 2010 season when Mo Williams went down and put up 30 points and 11 assists per game. In terms of seeing over defenses at 6'8, the variety of passes he can pull off, ability to operate the P&R, I.Q. and seeing plays well before they develop, knowledge of teammates tendencies, and creating ball movement, being willing, making other teammates better LeBron has him beat. Literally, nothing points toward MJ being a passer than LBJ. That doesn't mean MJ is a bad passer.
LeBron wouldn't "suffer" in any of era of NBA defenses the man was putting up numbers in the handcheck+zone deadball era with a limited jumper in his second year in the league. You talking about college, out his own mouth Jordan said his career would not be the same if he faced zone defenses from the jump.
Post is B.S., give LeBron his credit.
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Bron is not on MJ's level as fundamentally skilled bball player
yall are confused by Brons freakish athleticism and thinking it makes him as good as the goat.
yall are confused by Brons freakish athleticism and thinking it makes him as good as the goat.