What do y'all think about demolishing projects?

[theworldismine13]

Milton the Gawd

 

[theworldismine13]

TWISM is great. Get 5 monolithic ideas in his head and he repeats them like a mantra for years

yeah, i represent peace, unity, love and having fun

and also economic and individual freedom

everything i say flows from those first principles

and yeah public housing suppresses the economic and individual freedom of the residents that is why they should all be destroyed

 

[Techniec]

I've lived in the projects my whole life, still live in the jects, so I've got a stake in this situation.

In Canada, they followed suit with Public Housing much like the U.S. , building massive public housing complexes, except they are usually in pockets around the city, not normally clustered like the U.S.

I lived in Canada's largest and notorious housing project, Regent Park, for the greater portion of my life, and currently live in another housing project not too far away.

Both communities are subject to revitalization, which Regent Park already being half torn down and replaced with mixed housing, public and private. The results so far have been mixed, with the Gang Members still having their way with each other, but the quality of life has increased noticeably for those who are in the revitalized part at least. Businesses have moved in, and the middle income people spend money in these businesses which are mandated to hire people in the community, which further brings in income.

The actual houses themselves are smaller, but clearly a step up from the houses they used to have (which were honestly ), and the area doesn't look as dilapidated and dangerous as it once did. Displacement is a fear however. I will have moved out on my own by the time they begin to revitalize my current neighborhood, but some people may be displaced, and that represents a human rights issue that the planners of these projects should be aware of.

Overall, I think that the revitalization model is a success, even though it isn't an overnight sucess. The violence in the community and the drug dealing wont go away overnight, or ever, but mixing the communities with middle and higher income people will give more of a voice to the problems of the community, and help to reverse them. People in the projects from experience only meet other people from high school, and when they drop out of high school, they don't meet anyone else period. It's literally a whole other world.

So, in short, I'm for demolishing the projects if they are doing it in the spirit of revitalizing it using 21st century knowledge in sociology, economics and architecture, but demolishing them simply for the purpose of capitalism is totally abhorrent, which I fear would happen in the U.S.

you a regent cat?



i lived in blake st, woolner, flemo park and then spent 17 yrs living in Scarlett

the day me and my sis bought a house and moved out



i miss the hood...well...not everything

 

[Type Username Here]

I wish people that had access to Section 8 would reflect on the chance they have been given to move out of desolate neighborhoods and into better places. They always end up bringing ignorance and crime where they go.

Not just here in America either. In France, they are having that issues as well with Gypsies.

 

[SEC Hater]

the owners of the projects blew up the projects, which they had every right to do

Yep, and they were blown up for a reason. It wasnt to help crime, and it wasnt to better the lives of the people who lived in them. If you think the reason was for anything other than $$ then you're a fool

 

[theworldismine13]

Yep, and they were blown up for a reason. It wasnt to help crime, and it wasnt to better the lives of the people who lived in them. If you think the reason was for anything other than $$ then you're a fool

I don't think you get where I am coming from, I'm against public housing as a matter of principle

based on my monolithic ideas of economic freedom and individual rights I don't think the government should own people's homes

I could fukin care less why they imploded the buildings, the buildings should not have existed in the first place

spare me your conspiracy theories

 

[Type Username Here]

Does anyone have those vintage pictures of how the housing projects and grounds looked like when they were brand new? A lot of them were ahead of their time in style and infrastructure. They looked damn good.

 

[SEC Hater]

I don't think you get where I am coming from, I'm against public housing becuase as a matter of principle and based on my monolithic ideas I don't think the government should own people's homes

I could fukin care less why they imploded the buildings, the building should not have existed in the first place

spare me your conspiracy theories

Oh, so its about the government owning peoples homes? What about projects that are turned into senior housing, still owned by the government? Should they be demolished as well?

 

[daze23]

what about public housing in other countries?

A forest of high-rises, many of them public housing projects, covers central Kowloon, one of the world's most crowded pieces of real estate. Despite Hong Kong's glittery reputation, almost half of its seven million residents live in subsidized housing.

 

[Type Username Here]

I'm serious, can anyone find those old pictures of the newly constructed projects in NYC?

 

[daze23]

I'm serious, can anyone find those old pictures of the newly constructed projects in NYC?

if you look close, you can see Nas in his window

more here:

http://collections.mcny.org/C.aspx?VP3=SearchResult_VPage&ALID=24UPN47MY5

 

[Type Username Here]

if you look close, you can see Nas in his window

Handcuffed to the radiator?

 

[Mikael Blowpiff]

I think I see him coming out wearing camouflage.

Personally i think that more housing projects should have been more integrated with the local street grid instead of using the "towers in the park" plan.

 

[theworldismine13]

So you would rather have crime everywhere, rather than confined to certain areas?

yeah i think its better for crime to be spread out than to be concentrated, and overall crime has come down all over the country as projects have been torn down

So its unamerican to not own your own shyt?

yeah the american economic system is based on property ownership, im glad to pass along the memo

So what about people who rent/lease apartments/condos/mobile homes/houses for their whole lives?

what about them?

Oh, so its about the government owning peoples homes? What about projects that are turned into senior housing, still owned by the government? Should they be demolished as well?

no disrespect to the seniors but senior housing is irrelevant to the overall housing market, it has a very high "turnover" rate so senior housing is more akin to temporary housing

temporary housing is fine unless its dirty or crime infested then yeah it should be demolished

 

[theworldismine13]

Deep in my bleeding heart sometimes lefty soul I agree with what you wrote but in the real world I tend to lean toward the idea of if you have the circumstance where a bad element has all grouped together then keeping them in one place is a hell of a lot better than relocating them so they can spread their special brand of misery to others. I'm not saying round folisup and herd them into projects but if they have already herded themselves there then let it be what it is.

the projects shouldnt exist in the first place and if black people want to herd themselves into certain places that is our right, but it shouldn't be done by a government bureaucrat

your example shows how the government uses public housing to suppress the economic rights and individual rights of residents

i think its funny that people want to demand public housing AND ignore how public housing herds people and strips away their individuality and then wonder why residents get referred to as "them"