What do Black people GAIN from NOT voting?

[SupaDupaFresh]

It's 2022 and Black people still vote for Political Parties instead of Policies. Every other race gets this but us, sad

Until we stop doing this, we will forever be Pawns

Yall keep repeating this smart dumb shyt and can't name one thing the Republican Party offers black voters to wager.

The way some of yall so eager to vote Republican and just won't admit is amazing.

Homeboy @Double Burger With Cheese talmbout "I don't give a fukk about voting. "They" (clearly meaning Democrats) want me to vote just to vote for their candidate." Yeah? And? There's a reason why only the Democrat Party is pushing for black people to vote while the Republican Party is pushing to restrict voting for AAs. It's because if every black person eligible to vote did so, the choice would be clear for 90% of them that aren't looking for the attention of being a contrarian. Republicans know this. That's why you don't hear shyt from them during election cycles. It's not cus someone is trying to fool you into only voting Democrat.

Accordingto TLR...we need to stop voting for parties and votE for policies....BUT NO ONE CAN EXPLAIN THESE REPUBLICAN POLICY STANCES WE ARE IGNORING.. we need to stop voting until both sides offer us something instead of just one. BUT THE VERY NOTION OF REDISTRIBUTING WEALTH AT ALL DISENFRANCHISED RACE IS A PURELY LIBERAL/DEM PARTY IDEA. WHAT PART OF THIS DONT YALL GET? I dont vote because I'm only encouraged to vote Democrat. I'll only consider voting if I can vote for whoever I want....

Why don't yall militant nikkas just admit you want to be Republican and spare us the smart dumb "my people" poetry.

 

[I Really Mean It]

If Democrats lose their seat of power by not answering the black vote with tangible results, they might feel compelled to actually meet our demands the next time they take office. We gain an ear that truly listens and responds to what we are saying. We lose nothing by withdrawing from the electoral process and withholding a vote that is already taken for granted.

It is not complicated.

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

What these conversations really come down to is, people want you to vote for their candidate. They don’t give a fukk if you not voting if you wasn’t gonna vote for they candidate anyway. They want you to vote…as long as you voting the same way as them. Otherwise, they don’t give a fukk about you exercising your right.

BING-fukkIN'-O!!!

 

[SupaDupaFresh]

Not to be contrarian...but if a large number of the demographic refuses to vote, legislators will want to know why and then try to accommodate them by doing more research on what they want

They do their research and realize "what they want" is woefully unpopular, politically infeasible, possibly unconstitutional, lacks any regard for a broad or national political strategy all voters can get behind, qnd most of all is being pushed by shady figure with right wing ties who's real goal is clearly to disadvantage Democrats ahead of elections and engineer voter turnout against them.


Reparations ain't nothing but a layup for Republicans to rally the entire country against Democrats and black voters as a whole. The people pushing it the most on Twitter are fukking Republicand who know this and they know it's a great ruse to emotionally manipulate black voters from "voting Democrat."

How else do explain their giddy eagerness to consider a party that not only offers them nothing but doesn't want them to even vote and is firmly on the side of white supremacists, vs. their absolute disgust with voting for a party that wants them to vote, offers them many things, but can't be pigeonheld to everything?

The shyt is nothng but fodder by black Republicans written for for "militant" useful idiots who just don't understand politics but have Twitter accounts to influence others into their idiocy.

Ima say this one more time for yall: you ain't getting ahit from Republicans. It serves them NOTHING to make any appeals to black voters, especially if "reparations" is now the gold standard of gaining the black vote. Forget it. Yall really think in exchange for being the party of choice for white people they gonna betray their voting base and consider any "tangible" offerings only for African Americans? Fox News got their audience riled up out their minds over Bidens commitment to a black female judge, but yall think these same people want to participate in some negotiation for the demands of black voters?

Vote Republican and fukking get it over with already. Spare us the phony intellect.

 

[SupaDupaFresh]

At some point it just feels like the outcome will be the same whether you vote or not. It can become a very neutral stance depending on the person.

We about to seat only the third black Supreme Court Judge in American history....thanks entirely to the Democrat Party....where that seat would've firmly belonged to some anti-civil rights evangelical cacservatice redneck from Mississippi if Tariq Nasheed had his way and "better for black people" Donald Trump was serving his second term.

And yall still talking this right wing propaganda about both sides the same and our votes don't matter.

Don't listen to this psy ops shyt people.

Black votes DO MATTER. Our voting power DOES have an impact. We DO make gains from voting and we DO take losses from not voting. No one is forcing you you telling you who to vote for, it just seems that way because only one of the two parties DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE ANY POLITICAL POWER WHATSOEVER.

Don't believe this TLRepublican nonsense. 90% of this forum has been indoctrinated by viral right wing PAC nonsense and don't even realize it. VOTE.

 

[shopthatwrecks]

not getting a i voted sticker

 

[SupaDupaFresh]

In an experiment If 20 percent of prior reliable Black American voters for the 2020 Presidential election stated clearly in the primaries that they refused to vote for the Democratic or Republican candidate but only the other Democratic state and local offices , Unless Democrats made a verifiable commitment to enact concrete full Reparations legislation from leading experts, HBCUS full funding, and lead pipe replacement and other infrastructure building.
The Democrats would have been pressured to deliver and could conceivably if not certainly delivered on those commitments in order to beat Trump.

If African Americans refused to vote unless Democrats ran on wildly unpopular policies that centers exclusively around us, we'd be pigeonholding the party to an inevitable defeat.

Biden would've lost zoff the poor strategy of pursuing a small demographic that mostly refuses to vote anyway. And Trump would've won on the backs of all the fear and resentment of Democrats becoming the "black people party."

And a second term Trump would be lining up white power stooges appointed at every level of our government to ensure a future Democrat victory or an investigation into Trump, let alone "laws exclusively for African Americans, " is NEVER a reality.

I mean The Republicans were waiting in the cut in 2020 to pounce on Biden co-signing "the squad" and defunding cops. And they went with the right strategy of separating woke politics from Presidential elections where there is too much at stake.

The smarter thing for the party to do In your scenario would be to abandon the black vote altogether and focus on gaining white votes in the south instead since black voters have apparently decided they are perfectly comfortable not participatinf in elections and being ruled over by white southerners while they sit by and wait for reparations negotiations...

Yall really talk a big game about politics but can't even take in the simple math to play the game effectively.

By not voting you are not prompting a negotiation nor are you gaining power and position to negotiate, you are doing the opposite. The first step to achieving reparations would be to vote in massive numbers and elect empathetic LIBERAL politicians to every level of our governement. Judges, reps, senators, and perhaps a President. That's when we have leverage, not the other way around. By not voting we are giving up that waging power and leverage.

But yall can keep listening to Tariq Nasheed if it feels good.

 

[alpo]

All of us who like this post, it time for us to get these shills up outta here. They done got too big for their bridges

 

[RedCloakBlackWraithe]

fukkkkkk offff you shilllls geezus krist leave ppl aloneeeee

 

[High Art]

I actually understand, to a degree, the idea behind it, but by itself it is doomed to failure. There has to be a political or economic counteraction or something. Sitting out by itself won't help. For example, if the non-voters used that time to look up empty congressional seats (these exist and some 4cacs and 8cacs tried to fill some ways back) and fill them, or find weak candidates who are running unopposed, then it would be impactful and could be leveraged into political power, that can lead to more political power down the line.

 

[skylove4]

- we would be able to say " we want X Y and Z as a community or yall fakkits aint gettin shyt!" possibly encouraging some act-right with both parties

but also
people in your face telling you

- that old nikkas died for your right to vote and you should be ashamed
- this is the campaign of all campaigns and we're doomed if we dont vote agaisnt [evil man]
- that you are an idiot, while conveniently forgetting that nothing substantial changed for us for decades regardless who was in office
- old family members calling you and asking if you voted every day

That a black person could type this is some sick shyt​

 

[SupaDupaFresh]

I get the sentiment, and I've been a critic of democrats as long as I've been able to vote back in 2004. Problem is, while democrats may not do anything more for you, you definitely will have your rights taken away if Republicans continue to win.

It's a fukked up situation to be in.

To say Democrats don't "do anything more for you" than Republicans is a bold face cynical lie. They do a helluva lot more legislatively, politically, socially and directly for black people than the other party. What either party is or isn't going to do for black people without saying it explicitly is practically the coded language of American politics to anyone that's been paying attention to the game. But because a bunch of viral internet con artists with Republican PACs pulling their strings, like Yvette Carnell and Tariq Nasheed, told you anything less than a multi ten-figure proposal exclusively to Africans Americans is not enough for our votes, Y'all ate it up like a bunch of phony militants without even thinking critically. While Republicans don't have to do shyt to be considered a better option in Nasheed's eyes, he will move the goal post of "voting Democrat" as far as possible without just admitting "I only want to get a wedge issue that helps Republicans win trending on the internet." And y'all don't see the games.

 

[Vandelay]

To say Democrats don't "do anything more for you" than Republicans is a bold face cynical lie. They do a helluva lot more legislatively, politically, socially and directly for black people than the other party. What either party is or isn't going to do for black people without saying it explicitly is practically the coded language of American politics to anyone that's been paying attention to the game. But because a bunch of viral internet con artists with Republican PACs pulling their strings, like Yvette Carnell and Tariq Nasheed, told you anything less than a multi ten-figure proposal exclusively to Africans Americans is not enough for our votes, Y'all ate it up like a bunch of phony militants without even thinking critically. While Republicans don't have to do shyt to be considered a better option in Nasheed's eyes, he will move the goal post of "voting Democrat" as far as possible without just admitting "I only want to get a wedge issue that helps Republicans win trending on the internet." And y'all don't see the games.

I don't exactly disagree with you. You won't do it, but you can check my posting history on YouTube pundits. I disagree vehemently with them. "Not doing anything" was a bit hyperbolic on my part. But, solely voting lockstep with democrats for decades is bad for an ever-changing black agenda. Voting republican or not voting at all will slowly erode social policy back to pre-1970's status for black people. Not voting is a net loss for black people.

 

[SupaDupaFresh]

Since I’ve been old enough to vote, I’ve gained NOTHING from Bush, Obama, or Biden. I didn’t vote for Trump but I damn sure gained some wealth when he was in office. I’d like to go back in time and vote for him, since that was the ONLY time I gained anything from a politician…and fukk how you feel about it

I can guarantee whatever economic gains you accomplished was facilitated by liberal policy, liberal spending, and a liberal economy that you would not have access to if a President Mitt Romney was in charge 2012-2016.Trump was a one-term President who's greatest economic accomplishment was tax cuts for the rich, the longest government shutdown in history, an endless tarriff war with China that ultimately led nowhere, and a pandemic response so foolishly botched up it tanked every economic gain that you made (whether you realize it or not) and that he tried to steal credit from his predecessor for.

Nothing that Trump did had a positive impact on the economy. The 2016-2018 economy was Obama's economy. Trump was riding on an already successful job market given to him by Obama--and so were you, but you don't know shyt about economics so you think it was hand delivered to you by big bad Trump in 2018--before he sent it into a complete freefall with his own stupidity. What we've been seeing since 2019 is the doing of the Trump administration. But I bet the moment Biden walked into office you were blaming inflation, job losses, and this abysmal economy on him right? People like you did the same to Obama in 2009 and had to eat shyt when he turned everything around in less than 3 years.

I'm on a black forum where supposedly black men are eager to give the most visible white supremacist of our generation a pat on the back and entire credit for the work of a black man who got elected and restored this country's economy when it was in ruins. Disgraceful. You're the perfect MAGA Trumper. Completely inept on politics and economics and totally susceptible to misinfo, lies, manipulation, and some type of sick anti-government sentiment that appears like cereberal free thought to idiots. Shooting himself in his entire foot and don't even know it. Find your red had and go catch Covid breh.

 

[SupaDupaFresh]

The ironic thing is the democratic policies (ie joe Biden’s crime bills, immigration, lgbt/abortion laws limiting the black population) are more harmful to the black community than Republican policies.

Your fukkin up your little right wing hustle on here my guy. Both sides are THE SAME. That's how you get these idiots to "not vote Democrat" or turn full blown Republican. If you say the Republicans are actually better for us that's when you start to lose them. They might actually catch on that you're not objective at all and then than hurts your woke points and credibility. Just a dab of a thoughtless contrarian view is all you need. Too much makes it obvious breh. C'mon get it together.