What can actually/realistically be done about illegal immigration?

[voiture]

Their employers are paying taxes. They are liable. and to make the proper deductions from their checks.
IF they aren't doing that, then the problem isn't illegals. its tax fraud from actual citizens/employers

The benefits they take outweigh what they put in. Those who hire them are the winners because they get to pay below market value for the work

 

[richaveli83]

Heavily fine any business or individuals who knowingly hires illegal immigrants.

 

[Luke Cage]

The benefits they take outweigh what they put in. Those who hire them are the winners because they get to pay below market value for the work

Yeah, they need to stop giving out pensions to these strawberry farmers.

 

[UpAndComing]

Alot won't like this, but you have to eliminate minimum wage

The minimum wage law incentivizes businesses to hire illegal immigrants, because they see cost of unskilled labor as too high for their bottom line
If you eliminate it and allow a business to price their labor services, there would be no reason for a business to hire an illegal immigrant when they can hire a citizen who is also unskilled

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

Actually the fear mongering is the believe the immigrants or harming our economy rather than supporting it.

It's really a half glass full issue or you can say a gray area. It actually does both. The harm come in schools in local districts. It's good for the "economy" for employers. Regular people competing for jobs can be on the losing end of the stick.

 

[Dameon Farrow]

The 'illegal immigration' is a talking point. They are out here snatching jobs left and right but you can't name one person who has actually had their job taken by an illegal immigrant. I can't. If you guys have stories where they have 'taken' something outside of construction or fruit picking it deserves a stickied thread. I'm sorry about the few folks they have come here and killed but they aren't adding anything substantial to the murder rate. That's not to downplay their crimes. But we citizens have that on lock. We're not losing that crown any time soon.

To answer your question we actually have plenty of laws on the books regarding immigration. Strict ones. You'd be amazed at the folks who literally don't know this and believe millions of illegal immigrants are simply walking across the border every month.

A better question is how do we better enforce the rules we have. I say beef up feet on the ground down there. That was a part of the bill 45 had the House to abandon, incidentally.

Like any law you have folks who will find a way to break it. That's what's happening at the border. But it's not as out of control as the narratives would have you believe.

And the length of the wall while a logistical nightmare isn't even the biggest issue. Imagine the manpower you'd need to guard it and keep it maintined. It would be a great symbol but it ultimately wouldn't accomplish jack but to be expensive to build and then maintain.

Enforce the current rules in place. Make sure the feet you have on the ground have anlbove and beyond their needs. It's that simple. Anything else is lip service.

 

[TL15]

Make every car driven in the US have to go through the DMV process to get US tags and license

Enforce whatever actual statute is in place for illegal immigrants

Reallocate funds for programs that benefit illegal immigrants and move the money to programs that help low income Americans

Shut down/impose heavy fines on businesses that are using illegal immigrant labor

Checkpoints at major highways that cross state lines

 

[Admiral Ackbar]

People will migrate to wherever the fukk they want. They're not moving for the hell of it, but because of socioeconomic forces.

End America's addiction problem, Mexicans will stop fleeing the cartels.

Stop corporatism and expand unions. Corporations will stop exploiting cheap labor and moving from country to country to find low taxes. People are following jobs.

 

[get these nets]

Reth8nk and revamp seasonal worker visa programs.They had them in the past where it was all regulated, and x amount of people came here to do work for a amount of months and then went back home.

American business got the extra labor, workers earned higher wages than they could earn back home and provided a financial cushion for the off-months, and had less of van incentive to overstay the visa.

 

[WIA20XX]

https://www.reddit.com/r/robotics/s/lo0ePVLTHj

 

[Miggs]

fine and jail any business owner that hires illegal immigrants


You can clean up a lot of problem by just doing that

Trump is not gonna greenlight any law where you can prosecute businesses who use migrant labor.

 

[Miggs]

Go after employers, but they are not going to do that.

Trump is gonna go after himself ?

 

[Geek Nasty]

Building a wall is literally not possible, nor does it solve anything. If you knew the distance from south Texas across the state and the terrain, this was never a true possibility. But of course trump supps eat it up

So what can be done realistically?

The border isnt the problem. It’s the market for illegal hiring. You start punishing illegal hiring and stop our stupid amnesty program it’s not a problem anymore.

 

[Samori Toure]

Trump is gonna go after himself ?

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Breh, ILLEGALS are not paying taxes. That's the complaint of many.

They get benefits etc, but don't pay taxes bc they are often getting paid cash or off the record.

Immigrants pay taxes and housing costs, regardless of status

A popular post circulating on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, and Instagram is airing the false notion that immigrants in the U.S. without authorization aren’t burdened with taxes or other costs faced by citizens.

apnews.com

More importantly, the claims about taxes, housing costs and immunizations are false.

“Unauthorized immigrants pay sales taxes, as does everybody else, and very significant numbers of them also have federal and state tax withholding in their paychecks,” Michelle Mittelstadt, a spokesperson for the the nonpartisan Migration Policy Institute, said in an email.

Likewise, Michael Clemens, a professor of economics at George Mason University, said “undocumented immigrants pay taxes, amounting to tens of billions of dollars in local, state, and federal taxes per year” — even though they can’t access most benefits that U.S. citizens are entitled to receive.

The Social Security Administration estimated in 2010, for example, that such immigrants contribute $12 billion per year more to the Social Security system than they take out, he noted.

While immigrants in the country without authorization do not have Social Security numbers, they can file taxes using an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number, or ITIN.

And Clemens noted that included in the immigrant population being referenced are many who applied for asylum upon arrival and were given permission to remain and work while their cases pend. Such applicants are eligible to potentially receive work authorization after 180 days.

The post’s other claims are similarly without merit.

“Of course unauthorized immigrants are expected to pay their mortgage or rent just like anyone else,” Mittelstadt said. “They are excluded from federally funded Section 8 rental vouchers and public housing.”

It's the other way around. They pay a lot into the system even though they can't access the benefits.