What can actually/realistically be done about illegal immigration?

[WIA20XX]

Building a wall is literally not possible, nor does it solve anything. If you knew the distance from south Texas across the state and the terrain, this was never a true possibility. But of course trump supps eat it up

So what can be done realistically?

If we're interested in labor substitution...

FIX ENGINEERING

Lawn care - >Roomba!
Construction -> Factory Built Housing
Farming ->more mechanization, more robots
Food Prep -> See Farming
Child Care -> Pay Better Wages/Drop expenses

Oh and "Black Jobs" (which is a lot of the above) - a lot of the both siders don't want to say that Mexicans and a lot of Illegal Aliens work the worst jobs - jobs that used to be staffed by ADOS Black Men specifically, ADOS Black People in General. Black Trump fans really want to be in the big house with Massa, but are totally fine being back in the fields.

In terms of the technology - only 1 in 4 engineering students ends up as an engineer

• Poor curriculum if we just want to create techies (Engineers still have to take a lot of unnecessary pre-reqs - like English and History, because we want them to be "well rounded")
• Weed out courses in Engineering (50% leave the major)
• A creaming system of grades and tiered colleges (unlike IT - certs matter, how much you passed the test by doesn't...or does it? *cue X-Files theme*)
• Jobs Unwilling to Hire New Grads/Unwilling to change (only 50% of engineering graduates actually become engineers/use their thing they trained 4 years for)

When you look at the top 10 industrial robot companies

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None of these are US based.

And ramble all you want about Boston Dynamics, that's now owned by Hyundai

Hyundai Motor Group Acquires Boston Dynamics | Boston Dynamics

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There are other huge factors along side this

• Raising Public School efficacy (School sucks as a way to socialize people, but it's the best thing the society has)
• Building more Housing (makes Child Care more possible to live on when the rents aren't sky high for would be child care workers)
• Better distribution for goods and services
• Better taxation/redistribution of profits
• Government Funding for Industrial Long shots that are not Defense

But the "net net" of this is that a lot of Fortune 500 and Rich Individuals/Families would take short term Ls. And for our oligarchic capitalists, long term W's don't make up for short term L's. And a government that works? A better social safety net? That flies in the face of everything that the US stands for...

 

[froggle]

 

[King]

Get rid of the people that hire them.

Rich white capitalists.

 

[Dwayne_Taylor]

Legalize drugs. Take some of the money we're sending to Ukraine and Isreal and give it to Mexico so they can actually end the cartels.

 

[jadillac]

Realistically our economy would tank if we "solved" this problem.

The idea of it being a problem, or its portrayal as such by politicians is what needs to be addressed.
Both the left and right know this too, which is why neither party does anything about it, despite speaking to contrary.

its honestly just a hot button topic they can used to rally support or opposition, but beyond that, they want those immigrants here.

I don't think it would tank the economy.

If you live in a major metro area, you see the difference . If you live in Omaha, yeah you probably don't see a lot of illegal people.

So maybe the answer is instead of bussing them to NY or Chicago, send them to Wyoming or Iowa where there's wide open room.

 

[F*ckthemkids]

This country can stop contributing to making shytholes, shytholes

But there's no money in that

I’m looking at the replies and just SMH

White America has truly convinced a lotta nikkas that it’s immigrants to blame, instead of White AmeriKKKa

Pure White Supremacy and US indoctrination at work,
pointing blame at other minorities that are victims of its harm too.

How about:

• Not enabling genocide
• not destabilizing the Global South in the name of US Imperialism
• not getting rid of socialist leaders in the Global South
• not being one of the world’s biggest sources of climate change

Just a hunch

Literally these

 

[voiture]

We can militarize the border but that would be bad PR for the US.
At the end of the day they keep coming because someone is willing to hire them under the table.
Capitalism needs cheap labor

 

[Luke Cage]

I don't think it would tank the economy.

If you live in a major metro area, you see the difference . If you live in Omaha, yeah you probably don't see a lot of illegal people.

So maybe the answer is instead of bussing them to NY or Chicago, send them to Wyoming or Iowa where there's wide open room.

These immigrants pay income taxes. We get rid of them That lost revenue would in turn be outsourced overseas, (they not going to pay americans 20 dollars an hour to do the same work, they can plant strawberry fields outside the USA ) then India or China would reap the benefits.
Result higher taxes on the rest of us, Less money plus higher inflation , poorer economy

 

[jadillac]

Also, fining companies who hire illegals is not going to happen. Most of those owners are Republican who are benefitting financially from cheap labor.

But that's a whole othet topic

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

Building a wall is literally not possible, nor does it solve anything. If you knew the distance from south Texas across the state and the terrain, this was never a true possibility. But of course trump supps eat it up

So what can be done realistically?

Good question. Illegal immigration hasn't been solved because it's not meant to. Just like the war on drugs does not have an end game. IMO, allowing employers to openly hire illegal immigrants and tax them and the employees at slightly higher rates would do. That excess amount can go to the administrative of legalizing them and projects for local areas.

 

[newarkhiphop]

Building a wall is literally not possible, nor does it solve anything. If you knew the distance from south Texas across the state and the terrain, this was never a true possibility. But of course trump supps eat it up

So what can be done realistically?

You will never truly 100% stop illegal immigration but you can reduce it dramatically, only 1 way to do it :

1. Remove the incentive to come here illegally by making the places there immigrating from socially and economically strong.

The reason most of the those countries are fuked is the US and is well documented in this book

 

[jadillac]

These immigrants pay income taxes. We get rid of them That lost revenue would in turn be outsourced overseas, (they not going to pay americans 20 dollars an hour to do the same work) then India or China would reap the benefits.
Result higher taxes on the rest of us, Less money plus higher inflation , poorer economy

Breh, ILLEGALS are not paying taxes. That's the complaint of many.

They get benefits etc, but don't pay taxes bc they are often getting paid cash or off the record.

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

These immigrants pay income taxes. We get rid of them That lost revenue would in turn be outsourced overseas, (they not going to pay americans 20 dollars an hour to do the same work) then India or China would reap the benefits.
Result higher taxes on the rest of us, Less money plus higher inflation , poorer economy

Sorry but that logic is fear mongering. It puts emphasis on taxing ordinary people and not big businesses.

 

[Luke Cage]

Breh, illegals are not paying taxes. That's the complaint of many.

They get benefits etc, but don't pay taxes bc they are often getting paid cash or off the record.

Their employers are paying taxes. They are liable. and to make the proper deductions from their checks.
IF they aren't doing that, then the problem isn't illegals. its tax fraud from actual citizens/employers

 

[Luke Cage]

Sorry but that logic is fear mongering. It puts emphasis on taxing ordinary people and not big businesses.

Actually the fear mongering is the believe the immigrants or harming our economy rather than supporting it.