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I started listening to him before the election in 2016, and stopped about a month before.

Dude spent more time criticizing Hillary than Trump; I don't care what your opinion of Hillary is, she was the better choice. Bar none.

Anyone who suggested it was either ok to waste a vote on a 3rd party, or vote for Trump instead of Hillary is a fool.


The liberal elitist shyt is why this bytch lost...FOH nikka.:mjlol:
 

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Explain, please, which choice was better in the General election. (Not the primaries; I voted for Bernie.)

I'll wait.

Your on that stupid shyt like Hiliary calling Trump voters "deplorable".

"I don't care what your opinion of Hillary is, she was the better choice. Bar none. " Mighty arrogant statement for such a subjective thing.

For you to insinuate there is a thing as a "wasted" vote is stupid as well. I can and have the right to vote for who the fukk ever...if I want to vote for that c*nt or rapist that is president so be it. If I voted for Jill or Gary that's my right.

The moment one of you Hilary dikk riders want to shame people because her dumbass lost I could give a fukk less what Trump does....:scust:

This bytch did the racist and gender baiting tactics against Obama in 2007 and you expect me to vote for her? :pacspit::pacspit:

"A few years ago, this guy would have been carrying our bags." Bill Clinton said about Obama in 2008 :mjpls:

Same Hilary who was boasting about having more white support than Obama and made him denounce Farrakhan.


The mental gymnastics ya'll go through when she was just as racist as Trump when Obama was coming up.....:bryan::bryan::bryan:
 

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Your on that stupid shyt like Hiliary calling Trump voters "deplorable".

"I don't care what your opinion of Hillary is, she was the better choice. Bar none. " Mighty arrogant statement for such a subjective thing.

For you to insinuate there is a thing as a "wasted" vote is stupid as well. I can and have the right to vote for who the fukk ever...if I want to vote for that c*nt or rapist that is president so be it. If I voted for Jill or Gary that's my right.

The moment one of you Hilary dikk riders want to shame people because her dumbass lost I could give a fukk less what Trump does....:scust:

This bytch did the racist and gender baiting tactics against Obama in 2007 and you expect me to vote for her? :pacspit::pacspit:

"A few years ago, this guy would have been carrying our bags." Bill Clinton said about Obama in 2008 :mjpls:

Same Hilary who was boasting about having more white support than Obama and made him denounce Farrakhan.


The mental gymnastics ya'll go through when she was just as racist as Trump when Obama was coming up.....:bryan::bryan::bryan:
She was also on some, "You never know, Obama might get clapped." shyt to. lol
She's not good at this politics thing. :heh:
 

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She was also on some, "You never know, Obama might get clapped." shyt to. lol
She's not good at this politics thing. :heh:

But then I'm a c00n for holding a grudge for what her racist white ass did and not voting for her on some "lesser of two evils" shyt. fukk her and Trump....:yeshrug:

I did my ancestors right and voted, but fukk you if you consider my right a "waste" when 45% of American don't even vote. :stopitslime:
 

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Your on that stupid shyt like Hiliary calling Trump voters "deplorable".

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Because they are...just because Clinton phrased it horribly doesn't mean it isn't true. :gucci:

"I don't care what your opinion of Hillary is, she was the better choice. Bar none. " Mighty arrogant statement for such a subjective thing.

It's pretty objective that Trump's policy positions were/are worse for America as a whole and minorities in particular.

For you to insinuate there is a thing as a "wasted" vote is stupid as well. I can and have the right to vote for who the fukk ever...if I want to vote for that c*nt or rapist that is president so be it. If I voted for Jill or Gary that's my right.

I'm not arguing what you do and don't have a "right" to do. I'm arguing logic.

Voting for a 3rd party in a general election helps the candidate you prefer the least, because your vote won't help the person most likely to be elected.

If you can't understand the concept of voting for a undesirable candidate to keep a worse candidate from being elected, this conversation is over.

The moment one of you Hilary dikk riders want to shame people because her dumbass lost I could give a fukk less what Trump does....:scust:

You really don't care about racism, then. :cambybp:



This bytch did the racist and gender baiting tactics against Obama in 2007 and you expect me to vote for her? :pacspit::pacspit:

How is Trump not worse in this regard? :bpthink:

The mental gymnastics ya'll go through when she was just as racist as Trump when Obama was coming up.....

How is Trump not worse in this regard? :bpthink:

Trump's full history of racism
 
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Typical Nap: shills for Hillary. Derails threads with his bullshyt argument. :stopitslime:

As for Secular Talk, it’s far from perfect but Kyle has his moments. Much better than many out there.
 
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Explain, please, which choice was better in the General election. (Not the primaries; I voted for Bernie.)

I'll wait.

Unfortunately, it doesn’t always work like that. Said “better” candidate has to have more than a main campaign message that basically boils down to “I’m not my opponent.”

Kerry tried that with Bush in 2004 and lost. Hilary was banking on Trump being a such a deranged loon that people would automatically vote for her. So confident she was about victory that she barely—if at all—campaigned in key swing states she needed to win. She also went with the “I’m not my opponent” message.

Like Kerry, she was the better candidate. And like Kerry, she lost. In Hilary’s case, she didn’t lose to an incumbent; she lost to a neophyte who has racist, sexist, and fascist views that was caught on tape talking about grabbing women by their private part.

The onus is on the “better” candidate to ensure victory. She should’ve campaigned more in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. She fukked up. That’s on her.
 
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I'm not arguing what you do and don't have a "right" to do. I'm arguing logic.

Voting for a 3rd party in a general election helps the candidate you prefer the least, because your vote won't help the person most likely to be elected.

If you can't understand the concept of voting for a undesirable candidate to keep a worse candidate from being elected, this conversation is over.

Yall are coming at it missing the context that the majority of voices saying "go ahead and protest vote" included the caveat "if you're in a non-swing state." Whether I vote Hillary or third party in a deeply blue state, Hillary is winning the state. So it's not harmful and doesn't impact who wins. I'm not sure I've seen anyone argue for protest voting in swing states in this thread, though I haven't read every post in this thread. Most of us didn't ever condone the Jimmy Dore style approach, it fell mainly to the Sam Seder progressive voting philosophy.
 

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Because they are...just because Clinton phrased it horribly doesn't mean it isn't true. :gucci:



It's pretty objective that Trump's policy positions were/are worse for America as a whole and minorities in particular.



I'm not arguing what you do and don't have a "right" to do. I'm arguing logic.

Voting for a 3rd party in a general election helps the candidate you prefer the least, because your vote won't help the person most likely to be elected.

If you can't understand the concept of voting for a undesirable candidate to keep a worse candidate from being elected, this conversation is over.



You really don't care about racism, then. :cambybp:





How is Trump not worse in this regard? :bpthink:



How is Trump not worse in this regard? :bpthink:

Trump's full history of racism

False delemma fallacy FOH house nikka
 

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Unfortunately, it doesn’t always work like that. Said “better” candidate has to have more than a main campaign message that basically boils down to “I’m not my opponent.”

Kerry tried that with Bush in 2004 and lost. Hilary was banking on Trump being a such a deranged loon that people would automatically vote for her. So confident she was about victory that she barely—if at all—campaigned in key swing states she needed to win. She also went with the “I’m not my opponent” message.

Like Kerry, she was the better candidate. And like Kerry, she lost. In Hilary’s case, she didn’t lose to an incumbent; she lost to a neophyte who has racist, sexist, and fascist views that was caught on tape talking about grabbing women by their private part.

The onus is on the “better” candidate to ensure victory. She should’ve campaigned more in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. She fukked up. That’s on her.
yes, kerry didnt even criticize bush jr! cause "we were at war, cant criticize the president"
 

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False delemma fallacy FOH house nikka

Lol typical

"Hillary was JUST as racist/sexist/homophobic"

Receipts?

"W-w-well her husband once said..."

:mjlol: Every single time. Please fukk right off mate.
 
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