The bottom line is that with atheism, you can keep all of the benefits of religiosity without any of the downsides.
People who are religious will tell you that without religion in your life, everything is relative. That's fukking bullshyt. Even if there is a relativism of means, there is never a relativism of ends. People want the same exact shyt -- safety, food, acknowledgement, diversion, etc. We as a race will find what means work best eventually for all of us, through trial, error, and yes, combat.
But if you're religious, you lock yourself into the idea that there is only one true means of salvation -- one book, one truth, one prophet, one set of rules that tell you what you can do or not do. You accept that we all want the same shyt, but that THIS is the only possible way to achieve it. Like boom, it's over, THIS is the revelation for all motherfukking time. Moreover, you accept that revelation on the basis of NOTHING besides blind faith. There is no objective way to verify the existence of god until you die, at which point you leave this plane of reality. In other words, there are no observable phenomenon in this life to show you god exists.
So essentially, you're just pigeon-holing yourself in terms of what means you can use to achieve humanity's generally similar ends, as if history ended the moment your holy book came out.
Anyway, that's how I see it.
complete non sense on all accounts.
lets start with the later..
you say there is no observable phenomenon in this life to show you God exists?
sure there is.
YOU.. alive, breathing, eating, walking, talking, hearing, feeling, tasting, smelling, etc. the earth here, supporting life as we know it. the sun just hanging there, heating up earth not to much, not to little, jusssst about right. for a soup called human's and animals. as well as other life forms.
you are a walking phenomenon. the earth is a spinning phenomenon. space is an expanding phenomenon.
Who on earth created these things? NO ONE .... on EARTH created these things. but these things were created.
unless you want to live with the blind faith..that they came about randomly.
thats your choice. but dont fool yourself into believing you too are not a person of faith. you are.just not the right kind.
all of your favorite scientist from back in the day had serious faith in their equations. they themselves could not even truthfully test all of those things. they were just THEORIES, IDEAS based on a few other things they've been able to observe. but not the entire thing. but with our tools and with their previous info. we can actually test that stuff out and say "WOW that fool EINSTEIN was right." how did he know? he didnt KNOW for SURE. he had FAITH in the unseen.
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So essentially, you're just pigeon-holing yourself in terms of what means you can use to achieve humanity's generally similar ends, as if history ended the moment your holy book came out.
the truth is we are all pigeon held to some degree. you nor i know anything new that hasnt been known already as far as the basic understanding of how to live life. "there's nothing new under the sun." The Bible is there with all the basic, simple info in there on how one should live their life to the fullest. not live their life to have the most fun, or be the most happy(only smiley when something is happ..ening now). but to live life and get the most JOY out of it. there's a difference between that and happiness.
an atheist like yourself just rather bump their head on something that was stated to you in the good book. dont do this, but do that. do this, but dont do that. if you do enough of this, you wont have time to that. but no we wont listen. because we want to BELIEVE. that we can come up with a NEW WAY. lol at that one. there's nothing NEW under the sun. Follow that book, have more joy out of life. dont bump your head so much because you refuse to ride with that book and you want to go off on your own. do not compare what i'm saying to some christians you know or have seen. christians are people who have been saved. thats it. they are not all at the same place in their spiritual walk. not even close. some that have been christians since their kid years, are still just babes in christ so to speak. so what you see out of them is not maturity. some others just got in a few years ago. but they are 10 times more mature then the ones that have been down for much longer.
this is a reality that you have to understand when comparing and contrasting.
you go out there and find me 10 very very mature christians(men/women). then you go find me 10 very very mature atheist. I promise you, the 10 Christians will have more JOY and more peace in their lives. then the 10 atheist. but you will never see that kind of comparison. the only thing you see, is babe christian acting a fool vs mature atheist.