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No one expects everything to look like Demon Slayer and AoT. Unlike with visuals and animation, pacing isn't something that rely on production values. Sure how much budget you can have can affect pacing, but it is not an excuse for bad pacing. Look at Kingdom S1+S2. The one and only thing they did right was pacing and voice acting. Which should be the bare minimum for a given adaptation.

Having awful pacing ruins an adaptation faster than mediocre animation can.

Ranger Reject - 6 vols in 12 episodes
Bottom Tier Tomozaki S2 - 4.5 books in 13 episodes
Dead Mount Death Play - 10 books in 2 cours
Unnamed Memory - 3 dense novels in 1 cour.

Stuff like this just becomes a highlight of moments that has no cohesion to it.

Meanwhile, Helck in an example of how yes the animation was mid and this is something @Jmare007 and I went back and forth on. Animation bothered him too much, while for me, it was tolerable to keep going. But it had all the other great stuff from a great adaptation, top tier storytelling, top tier voice acting, great music and great comedy.

In Helck's case despite the weak production values the pacing was on point, so it gave you a story you to immerse yourself in. For those of that read the manga it gave us the itch continue to read the manga. Point being so many adaptations are LAZY. A lot of the issues in the industry has to do with budget and time. As long as that shyt ain't no Ex-Arm status you can still engage the viewer. But pacing does not completely rely on that. There is still a way to make a decent anime even with a limited budget. Which like Helck as my example can get them invested to read the source if they so choose to.
The original season of Tomozaki was a mediocre production but I'm reading those novels now because of it. I recognized the quality of the underlying work from that season. Not gonna lie I've yet to view season 2 but I plan to get around to it. If I really like something I prefer to read before I watch the anime because the majority of anime are piss poor adaptations and I prefer to experience the story the best way possible first.

A good chunk of the works I read I started out with the anime and converted. That model works. Sure the people who choose not to go to the source get poor quality but it is what it is. I don't think the industry generates enough to put extra work into making all these adaptations good quality.
 

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The fight scene between the Hashiras was pretty fukking dope. Wished they showed an extended version when Tokito joined. Also wanted to see serious sparring between Tanjiro and Tokito.
 

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The fight scene between the Hashiras was pretty fukking dope. Wished they showed an extended version when Tokito joined. Also wanted to see serious sparring between Tanjiro and Tokito.
They might, considering most of this training arc is being made up for the anime :russell:

They gonna milk the hell out of this last arc
 

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The original season of Tomozaki was a mediocre production but I'm reading those novels now because of it. I recognized the quality of the underlying work from that season. Not gonna lie I've yet to view season 2 but I plan to get around to it. If I really like something I prefer to read before I watch the anime because the majority of anime are piss poor adaptations and I prefer to experience the story the best way possible first.

A good chunk of the works I read I started out with the anime and converted. That model works. Sure the people who choose not to go to the source get poor quality but it is what it is. I don't think the industry generates enough to put extra work into making all these adaptations good quality.
Tomozaki S1 still had decent pacing to get you invested which is my point. S2 pacing is fukking atrocious in comparison. I could recommend S1 to someone to see if the series is for them despite the anime’s flaws. S2 because of pacing is awful and would never advise someone to ever watch those. I doubt we ever get a S3, so might as well pretend it doesn’t exist.
 

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Finished S1 of Black Butler. Given the fact that majority of S1 is filler and all of S2 is filler it was decent. Story wise it focused on what happened to Ciel's parents and who is responsible. The queen being responsible was interesting, but the execution felt lacking. Again filler season lack of buildup isn't surprising. The end sits with me wrong when Ciel's dad says the Queen plans to take them out, but don't tell Ciel. This is some twisted logic.

Overall the best part was the characterization. In contrast with Ciel and Sebastian, we know Sebastian only cares of keeping Ciel safe. But is willing to sacrifice whoever else along the way even if that goes against what Ciel wants. The dynamic between Ciel and Elizabeth is nice, as Elizabeth represents the person that Ciel used to be. She aims to be the one shining light for him. Abberline was one who believes in justice in the anime and very natively. For once Ciel had his pawn perform behaviors he wasn't expecting. How Ciel's other 3 associates were actually very skilled or power beings. CIel and Sebasitian offered them to live a life even if their duties didn't suit them at all was sweet.

I am curious how the canon part of the story is told in contrast since that should be higher quality since next I will watch BB: Book of Circus next.
 

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Finished S1 of Black Butler. Given the fact that majority of S1 is filler and all of S2 is filler it was decent. Story wise it focused on what happened to Ciel's parents and who is responsible. The queen being responsible was interesting, but the execution felt lacking. Again filler season lack of buildup isn't surprising. The end sits with me wrong when Ciel's dad says the Queen plans to take them out, but don't tell Ciel. This is some twisted logic.

Overall the best part was the characterization. In contrast with Ciel and Sebastian, we know Sebastian only cares of keeping Ciel safe. But is willing to sacrifice whoever else along the way even if that goes against what Ciel wants. The dynamic between Ciel and Elizabeth is nice, as Elizabeth represents the person that Ciel used to be. She aims to be the one shining light for him. Abberline was one who believes in justice in the anime and very natively. For once Ciel had his pawn perform behaviors he wasn't expecting. How Ciel's other 3 associates were actually very skilled or power beings. CIel and Sebasitian offered them to live a life even if their duties didn't suit them at all was sweet.

I am curious how the canon part of the story is told in contrast since that should be higher quality since next I will watch BB: Book of Circus next.



season 2 of Black Butler: :birdman:

that ending for season 2 , tho':whoo:


season 3 ignoring most of season 1 & all of season 2 because they are not canon :hubie:


watching and enjoying season 3 because it picks back up the manga storyline:myman:
 

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Bell wasn't overpowered in S1 :skip:
Breh wasn’t even that damn strong nowhere near OP da hell were they thinking saying that
Tomozaki S1 still had decent pacing to get you invested which is my point. S2 pacing is fukking atrocious in comparison. I could recommend S1 to someone to see if the series is for them despite the anime’s flaws. S2 because of pacing is awful and would never advise someone to ever watch those. I doubt we ever get a S3, so might as well pretend it doesn’t exist.
WTF it’s that bad and I loved s2 shyt I know I should love the novel even more now whenever I get too it
 

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Read through the first 10 vols, I love it so far. Though I feel like the anime might be too slow if it doesn't get enough episodes. The build up is well written. If we ever to the action in v 9-10 it will look amazing since it's cloverworks
 

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Dungeon Meshi Ep 23

Phenomenal episode. With great a great mix of sad, wholesome and top comedy all in one today. One more episode left nooooooo :mjcry:

Senshi backstory is so sad. :mjcry: You kind of see the greed in the other Dwarfs eyes for wanting to explore more. It went from a journey of discovery to survival. Senshi being the little brother is a nice contrast to where he is right now as the veteran of the group. It is so sad he didn't have the confidence to go back home. Hopefully that happens by the end of the series.

Laios we know you just want to eat the Griffin. I guess his reasoning makes sense since it would cure Senshi's trauma. But the potential thought of eating someone of your own race is a scary thing to imagine. :huhldup: He got lucky the changing fairy ring was nearby, and I was surprised he knew so much about it. Though the fact a human could be a monster suddenly and their family not being able to recognize them is sad. Luckily Laios was right and Senshi ate Hippogriff is great. I couldn't imagine how this group would be like going forward if he was wrong.

Of course the group stepped into a changing Fairy Ring where Laios becomes a dwarf, Senshi becomes a sexy elf, Marcille becomes a cute half-foot and Chilchuck becomes a depressed tall man. The comedy here is golden, but they need to change back if they want to advance on their goals. :pachaha:


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Dungeon Mesi is easily one of the most creative and balanced anime I've ever seen. No episode is the same.

These nikka encounter everything. :mjlol:

Today's episode was classic.
 

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If everyone in Wind Breakers is gonna turn into Mr. Morale after a scrap I'll pass on this :russell: give me something less predictable

Not saying nikkas gotta be upset all day, but I haven't seen any kind of uniqueness about this story at all and we on EP 10. I guess they thought something in those first 10 would hook me :francis:
 
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