What about those who never heard of Jesus? Do they go to hell (VID)

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So true

and Jesus is his representative and it says if you do not know Jesus then you can not get into heaven. I am not speculating it says so.

Scripture also says, man should not speak of such things so lets just end the topic now before someone upsets The Almighty.
 

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do you not understand that that baptism is also symbolic. :smh: at sprinkling water on someone=salvation.

If only it were that easy.

To be "baptized" you must repent of your sins, i don't see a baby doing that during those ceremonies do you?

it really depends on what domination you are. Some believe babies have the ability to repent some don't.

so :manny:
 

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no jesus said unless one is born again then he is not getting into heaven. "he" does not indicate age.

so the only thing i give you is that quote does not mention women.

Enoch would like to speak to you as he neither knew of JC and was not baptized.

we're done here you and me. :smile: I've pointed you in the right direction, pull of your blinders, stop trying to pigeon hole the almighty and try reading the book he provided. BEYOND the 50,000 ft level.
 

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Enoch would like to speak to you as he neither knew of JC and was not baptized.

we're done here you and me. :smile: I've pointed you in the right direction, pull of your blinders, stop trying to pigeon hole the almighty and try reading the book he provided. BEYOND the 50,000 ft level.

Enoch is Jewish you forget Jesus is the savior that jews were talking about?

I am having a discussion and you are getting all pissy because I am just quoting what Jesus said about access and because it clashes with your own sense with what is right you are getting upset with me. :manny:

be upset with the book if anything.
 

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Enoch is Jewish you forget Jesus is the savior that jews were talking about?

I am having a discussion and you are getting all pissy because I am just quoting what Jesus said about access and because it clashes with your own sense with what is right you are getting upset with me. :manny:

be upset with the book if anything.
i guess we'll just have to see...
 

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Baptists and Seven day Adventists don't agree with you.

lol not all. Hell there are many a great Calvinist who believe babies go to heaven Charles Spurgeon being one of them. Ultimately we don't know though to be honest. We can go back and forth and ultimately we don't know 100% and sometimes maybe that's just how it was intended.


Psalms:131: 1-2
Lord, my heart is not haughty,
nor my eyes lofty.
Neither do I concern myself
With great matters,
Nor with things too deep for me.
Surely I have calmed and quieted my soul
Like a weaned child with his mother,
Like a weaned child with his mother,
So is my soul within me".
 

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There are more than enoughs cripture for you to reference on judging and condemning others to hell. Its not smart to do. Go on a Bible journey and learn about it, friend.
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every post i site and example from the bible to back up my claim. I ask for the same level of respect and do not get it.

lol not all. Hell there are many a great Calvinist who believe babies go to heaven Charles Spurgeon being one of them. Ultimately we don't know though to be honest. We can go back and forth and ultimately we don't know 100% and sometimes maybe that's just how it was intended.


Psalms:131: 1-2
Lord, my heart is not haughty,
nor my eyes lofty.
Neither do I concern myself
With great matters,
Nor with things too deep for me.
Surely I have calmed and quieted my soul
Like a weaned child with his mother,
Like a weaned child with his mother,
So is my soul within me".

nice quote i do not get what this has to do with babies getting into heaven.

Jesus himself say's you have to be baptized and accept him as your lord and savior. Now this may not apply to Jews because according to them they are already saved and everyone else is doomed so when jesus say's that he was prob talking about people who were not Jewish.

I would discuss this with you but honestly you seem very hostile to the idea of having a discussion of Jesus without adding modern sensibilities to ancient mind set.

Ancient people prob didn't care or think about unbaptized babies getting into heaven or hell and that was not up for discussion until the Reformation.
 
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