What about those who never heard of Jesus? Do they go to hell (VID)

[Bud Bundy]

mmmm Can i get a quote on that line? Lets deal with actual scripture lines. This is obviously true but lets not allow your words to be scripture.

I give you John 14:6

there are no exceptions given

please show me some if there are.

 

[Bud Bundy]

Baptized in the word, water is symbolic.

regardless how you do it if you are not baptized then you can not get it in.

 

[Brown_Pride]

He never really answers the questions. So for everyone who never heard of Jesus, we are judged on our actions. That if we commit sins we are damned to hell. However, the person who heard of Jesus is absolved of that sin and doesn't go to hell. His view doesn't solve the issue at all. If anything it only exasperates the issue. If God judges some people based purely on their actions and others purely on their belief in him then the unfairness issue would still exist.

I'm sure the Amazon tribes who have not had any contact with the modern world would love to have all their sins absolved simply by believing. Remember that is the key to salvation in Christianity. Its based on belief. It seems unfair for God to judge some people based on their actions and other on simple belief.

Why shouldn't everyone be judged on whether they sin rather than Christians who believe getting a free pass because they believe?

For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness, and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus
Romans 2:14-16

and it's not a "free pass" if anything we get it worse if we fuk up
Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we shall incur a stricter judgment. - james3:1

 

[Mr. Somebody]

regardless how you do it if you are not baptized then you can not get it in.

Thats up to God. The speculation is pointless.

 

[Brown_Pride]

regardless how you do it if you are not baptized then you can not get it in.

no seriously sit down.

 

[Bud Bundy]

Thats up to God. The speculation is pointless.

So true

and Jesus is his representative and it says if you do not know Jesus then you can not get into heaven. I am not speculating it says so.

 

[Bud Bundy]

no seriously sit down.

Brown pride show me some quotes from the bible that says people who are unbaptized in the christian faith get into heaven.

John 14:6 says if you do not know jesus then you can not gain access to god so where do unbaptized children fall into this.

 

[Brown_Pride]

I give you John 14:6

there are no exceptions given

please show me some if there are.

even if you want to take a "technical" approach you're incorrect.
For god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whoever believes in him may not perish but have everlasting life.


in no way shape or form does THAT verse imply that is the ONLY way to get into heaven.

Even... "no shall come to the father except through me" TECHNICALLY only means that JC will do the advocating for you. Doesn't mean you have to KNOW him, only that no one will get to god without him...

 

[Bud Bundy]

even if you want to take a "technical" approach you're incorrect.
For god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whoever believes in him may not perish but have everlasting life.


in no way shape or form does THAT verse imply that is the ONLY way to get into heaven.

Even... "no shall come to the father except through me" TECHNICALLY only means that JC will do the advocating for you. Doesn't mean you have to KNOW him, only that no one will get to god without him...

The only way to get into heaven is through Jesus

lets bring up John 3:3
Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God

jesus yet again saying that unless you accept him then you can not enter heaven.

 

[Brown_Pride]

Brown pride show me some quotes from the bible that says people who are unbaptized in the christian faith get into heaven.

John 14:6 says if you do not know jesus then you can not gain access to god so where do unbaptized children fall into this.

David's baby would like to have a word with you when you get to heaven.

WATER baptism is symbolic hell even John the BAPTIST knew that.

Outside of that again, you should probably reserve judgment and leave that up to the judge.

 

[Slang]

So all the tribes in the Amazon who have never come in contact with the modern world are damned?

Stupid Christian logic.

It's there fault for living like savages knowing full well there is human life outside of the jungle.

 

[Brown_Pride]

The only way to get into heaven is through Jesus

lets bring up John 3:3
Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God

jesus yet again saying that unless you accept him then you can not enter heaven.

again you're doing a lot of reading into things. he also said "man" not child.

again safer to let the judge judge. You just "do your part" and spread the gospel.

 

[Bud Bundy]

David's baby would like to have a word with you when you get to heaven.

WATER baptism is symbolic hell even John the BAPTIST knew that.

Outside of that again, you should probably reserve judgment and leave that up to the judge.

I never brought up water i just used the word baptized. I understand the water is symbolic but people usually baptize babies after they are born. Do you not understand that?

 

[Brown_Pride]

I never brought up water i just used the word baptized. I understand the water is symbolic but people usually baptize babies after they are born. Do you not understand that?

do you not understand that that baptism is also symbolic. at sprinkling water on someone=salvation.

If only it were that easy.

To be "baptized" you must repent of your sins, i don't see a baby doing that during those ceremonies do you?

 

[Bud Bundy]

again you're doing a lot of reading into things. he also said "man" not child.

again safer to let the judge judge. You just "do your part" and spread the gospel.

no jesus said unless one is born again then he is not getting into heaven. "he" does not indicate age.

so the only thing i give you is that quote does not mention women.