Westside Gunn, Benny & Conway - WWCD (Discussion Thread)

[TheDarceKnight]

Benny murdered this album

No doubt. The 2 back to back joints with Cruiser Weight Coke and Freddie Hot Spot sealed it for me.

I think Conway absolutely spazzed on May Store though. Especially the part were the drums drop out near the end.

 

[TrifeGod]

50 need to stop fukkin around, he rhymin like he want to go in but in the back of his mind he be like fukk this shyt


as a fan we think of the endless potential but he prob dont see what we see

baby steps I guess, he would be out of his mind to not do another project in the future without linkin up with these nikkaz producers

Also WSG is NICE I ain't even debating

 

[AkaDemiK]

Conway is better than Benny bro. Like strictly based on skillset Benny is his little mans.

negative

 

[mobbinfms]

if hwh 7 is a 10 this is a 3.

the production just doesn't compare. this album is one dimensional. HWH 7 had layers. it had SONGS.

its about making songs. no one wants to listen to 10 tracks of freestyles.

You’re a 20 year old kid and the first rap album you ever bought was a Logic album.

You’re Pakistani and openly posted about it at first, then on some weirdo shyt deleted those posts, as if there’s something wrong with being Pakistani.

You constantly complain about 90s hip hop because it’s “just Bars”
The first Griselda album you ever heard was Hermès 7
Now you’re in here critiquing this album as if you have a basis to?

 

[Asicz]

50 need to stop fukkin around, he rhymin like he want to go in but in the back of his mind he be like fukk this shyt


as a fan we think of the endless potential but he prob dont see what we see

baby steps I guess, he would be out of his mind to not do another project in the future without linkin up with these nikkaz producers

Also WSG is NICE I ain't even debating

Yeah I felt like 50 should work with Griselda crew and associates because he sounded like the 50 of a prior era during parts of his verse.

I hope that he could carve out some time to put out a project with Griseldas crew. Maybe other listeners heard the same and interest could be generated in a new 50 project.

 

[Asicz]

So what's the next project for Griselda?

 

[Big Mel]

I don't mind this opinion even though I disagree. But it trips me out that some people state it so matter of fact as if there's no debate. I'd say more people would look at this the opposite way. So it's odd to me when people imply that Conway is easily better than Benny. Conway had him in the flow department easily but even that may not be the case anymore. Benny is catching up there. In terms of body of work too I think Benny's released maybe 1/4th of the material as Conway (or less) and Tana Talk 3 and Plugs I Met are both already arguably top 5 GxFR projects.

Conway is dope as hell, but like I said earlier in here, I think he works best in group dynamics. And he still is the best of the 3 IMO if you put them all on Sway or something like that.

It doesn't help that his ear for production is maybe the worst of the 3 too. For example his verse here might be my favorite GxFR freestyle of 2019, and when you hear it on his latest project with the beat he chose, it sounds much less powerful.

Spoiler

Also I think he's a rare emcee that sounds doper live. I already mentioned the freestyles, and IMO joints like '94 Ghost had way more energy on the live version and sounded more raw.

Spoiler

I agree mostly. But Conway can do things from a rapping standpoint Benny has t shown yet. Conway has some of that Sean Price/Prime Em/Doom type DNA where Benny still seems cut from the Jada cloth to me.

it’s all nitpicking. I just know I’ve heard Conway do remarkable things with the flow over the years. I’ve been listening since 2015 though.

 

[iamduval]

I thought Freddie Gibbs had the album of the year until now. This is a classic. Eminem almost ruined it

 

[Xtz23]

Scotties hall and Nash back and forth with Benny at the end is underrated.

whole album looking like a classic to me pretty much

 

[Cheesy]

I really like this. This might be the first Griselda project I really enjoyed on the first listen, for some reason their style doesn't really 'click' with me right away. But this I'ma need them to drop a vinyl release

 

[g-ice]

Scotties hall and Nash back and forth with Benny at the end is underrated.

whole album looking like a classic to me pretty much

I’m saying

I’m shocked no one is talking bout that shyt more often.

 

[mr x]

Bu-bu-but shady's gonna ruin them!

Griselda iz da squad.

 

[Ashtrey]

Can't wait for the weather to get extra shytty and cold. Gonna be bumpin this heavy

 

[TheDarceKnight]

So what's the next project for Griselda?

Probably Tana Talk 4, God Don’t Make Mistakes, or the Conway and Alchemist album.

 

[TripleAgent]

I don't mind this opinion even though I disagree. But it trips me out that some people state it so matter of fact as if there's no debate. I'd say more people would look at this the opposite way. So it's odd to me when people imply that Conway is easily better than Benny. Conway had him in the flow department easily but even that may not be the case anymore. Benny is catching up there. In terms of body of work too I think Benny's released maybe 1/4th of the material as Conway (or less) and Tana Talk 3 and Plugs I Met are both already arguably top 5 GxFR projects.

Conway is dope as hell, but like I said earlier in here, I think he works best in group dynamics. And he still is the best of the 3 IMO if you put them all on Sway or something like that.

It doesn't help that his ear for production is maybe the worst of the 3 too. For example his verse here might be my favorite GxFR freestyle of 2019, and when you hear it on his latest project with the beat he chose, it sounds much less powerful.

Spoiler

Also I think he's a rare emcee that sounds doper live. I already mentioned the freestyles, and IMO joints like '94 Ghost had way more energy on the live version and sounded more raw.

Spoiler

I agree mostly. But Conway can do things from a rapping standpoint Benny has t shown yet. Conway has some of that Sean Price/Prime Em/Doom type DNA where Benny still seems cut from the Jada cloth to me.

it’s all nitpicking. I just know I’ve heard Conway do remarkable things with the flow over the years. I’ve been listening since 2015 though.

Also, Conway is on that "I don't write" shyt. He's good enough to get away with it, but if he REALLY locked in, he would probably go berserk. Benny is super hungry, and is utterly destroying everything. shyt is crazy. He seems unable to miss.