Westbrook to Wash for Wall

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I've always been missing the wall hype

cant shoot ... only played a full 82 games one time
4 playoff appearances... solid addition but I mean :yeshrug:


same for westbrook... great dude but unless the wizards grab someone else worthy of mentioning I dunno what they expect to do out there

maybe he is trying to beat KD home :shaq:
You crazy as hell
 

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So my takeaways:

I don’t get the urge to build around Beal. He is a good, not great, player, a complimentary guy who has been around for 8 years. People still expecting him to be something he hasn't been for 8 years is mystifying to me. Wall at his best was a better player, Westbrook still cam be a better player and at his best was in a different stratosphere. Lmao at the Wizards being "Brad's team"...

I see this as slightly more than a lateral move for Washington. They were a 9-seed last year---->Beal isnt good enough to lead a team anywhere, so having Westbrook makes them better, but they'll only be a bottom seed in the playoffs unless some other unforseen deal happens to make them better. I'm a Westbrook fan, and he was great in the season before the bubble last year, bounce back year that showed he still has something. He and Beal together, where is that going? The best thing is while Russ gets hurt he isn't likely to miss whole seasons the way Wall did, so he's an upgrade from Wall in that regard...

Houston wins this on paper if they keep Harden and Wall is available. He doesn't have to be back to pre-injury Wall, if he's a competent point, and Boogie is able to give you 15, this is a sneaky good team. The "if" factor is those two dudes health...

Wall gonna be challenged in The West. My thing with Houston is health. If these guys stay healthy, you've rebuilded and rebranded on the fly, not to contender status, but not worse than you were last year. Pf course if Harden keeps pushing for a trade, I still have a hunch Houston might do it anyway, a Wall/Boogie team in '21 aint taking you anywhere relevant, so you need to convince Harden this can work...

Weird trade, neither team got better than they were last year, but oddly enough, if both sides can stay healthy, both teams win the deal in their own right...
 

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I gotta root for Houston now. I really want to see my nikka Wall on a revenge tour.. He's on the wrong side of 30 but I hope he has a few decent seasons left in him.
 

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when has wall ever been ahead of russ?

its the coli
john wall best season in his career is 23 points and 10 assists shooting piss poor, while barely getting out of the first round and that was a healthy wall before knee injuries and his achilles being torn
 
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I get Houston got a first rounder, but they got worse. They should just trade Harden and blow it up. Wall is a worse (although slightly better shooting the 3) version of Russ and coming off a torn achilles. Maybe a little more traditional pg than Russ but that’s not what you need next to Harden. You need basically a 3 and D pg with Harden
 

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john wall is a passer... a willing passer... that involves the rest of the team...

and can play defense... i say its best for them.
John Wall’s career high assist number is 10.7 per game.

Weatbrook’s career high assist number is 10.7 per game.

Westbrook/Beal I actually think can really work. Westbrook’s ability to crash and create can work wonders for the Wizards shooters because Beal & Bertans can get open and thrive. They’re actually already both top 10 in scoring the 3 ball when open. This will definitely open the floor. Bertans is the perfect stretch 4. Westbrook should actually really help Rui as he develops too. I think the Wiz clearly won this trade. John Wall hasn’t played in 2 years, his game is predicated on his explosiveness and history has shown Achilles injuries have not been kind to Guards like Wall. Wiz suddenly can at least compete for top 4-6 in the conference. And entertaining as hell to watch. Won’t play much D but that offense :banderas:
 

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I get Houston got a first rounder, but they got worse. They should just trade Harden and blow it up. Wall is a worse (although slightly better shooting the 3) version of Russ and coming off a torn achilles. Maybe a little more traditional pg than Russ but that’s not what you need next to Harden. You need basically a 3 and D pg with Harden

the pick is so heavily protected that it’s pretty much a non factor.
 

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So my takeaways:

I don’t get the urge to build around Beal. He is a good, not great, player, a complimentary guy who has been around for 8 years. People still expecting him to be something he hasn't been for 8 years is mystifying to me. Wall at his best was a better player, Westbrook still cam be a better player and at his best was in a different stratosphere. Lmao at the Wizards being "Brad's team"...

I see this as slightly more than a lateral move for Washington. They were a 9-seed last year---->Beal isnt good enough to lead a team anywhere, so having Westbrook makes them better, but they'll only be a bottom seed in the playoffs unless some other unforseen deal happens to make them better. I'm a Westbrook fan, and he was great in the season before the bubble last year, bounce back year that showed he still has something. He and Beal together, where is that going? The best thing is while Russ gets hurt he isn't likely to miss whole seasons the way Wall did, so he's an upgrade from Wall in that regard...

Houston wins this on paper if they keep Harden and Wall is available. He doesn't have to be back to pre-injury Wall, if he's a competent point, and Boogie is able to give you 15, this is a sneaky good team. The "if" factor is those two dudes health...

Wall gonna be challenged in The West. My thing with Houston is health. If these guys stay healthy, you've rebuilded and rebranded on the fly, not to contender status, but not worse than you were last year. Pf course if Harden keeps pushing for a trade, I still have a hunch Houston might do it anyway, a Wall/Boogie team in '21 aint taking you anywhere relevant, so you need to convince Harden this can work...

Weird trade, neither team got better than they were last year, but oddly enough, if both sides can stay healthy, both teams win the deal in their own right...

For $40+ million dollars a year for the next three years, he better be close to pre-injury John Wall. If not, then it’s an L for Houston as they got a first out of the deal which might even convey.

With that being said, it was probably the best deal either team could get without having to attach multiple picks into the deal.
 

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John Wall’s career high assist number is 10.7 per game.

Weatbrook’s career high assist number is 10.7 per game.

Westbrook/Beal I actually think can really work. Westbrook’s ability to crash and create can work wonders for the Wizards shooters because Beal & Bertans can get open and thrive. They’re actually already both top 10 in scoring the 3 ball when open. This will definitely open the floor. Bertans is the perfect stretch 4. Westbrook should actually really help Rui as he develops too. I think the Wiz clearly won this trade. John Wall hasn’t played in 2 years, his game is predicated on his explosiveness and history has shown Achilles injuries have not been kind to Guards like Wall. Wiz suddenly can at least compete for top 4-6 in the conference. And entertaining as hell to watch. Won’t play much D but that offense :banderas:
its not so about if westbrook (weat??lol) is a passer.. its about being a willing passer...

westbrook wants to score first.. he is trying to drive the basket and if he cant finish then pass... when you have the intent to pass.. your players move better with you because they expect the pass... not to clear everyone so you can grab your own rebound..

i am not sure how well he will work with beal though....but i have a feeling it will.
 

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its not so about if westbrook (weat??lol) is a passer.. its about being a willing passer...

westbrook wants to score first.. he is trying to drive the basket and if he cant finish then pass... when you have the intent to pass.. your players move better with you because they expect the pass... not to clear everyone so you can grab your own rebound..

i am not sure how well he will work with beal though....but i have a feeling it will.
It’s true that Westbrook has been a shoot first scorer/slasher but he plays so well attacking the rim that he creates so many opportunities for everyone around him with floor spacing. I actually think the pieces the Wiz have around him will mesh very well. A lot of unselfish secondary role players & if there was one star Guard who can ply with Westbrook I’ve always said it’s actually Beal. It will be fun to watch. I’m telling you right now Bertans is a killer. They just paid him big money but this move will be tremendous payoff when you see what Bertans can do this season.
 

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I mean, my team is going to be LIT for the first quarter of the season opener, anything after that is running on pixie dust with Boogie and Walls injury history :unimpressed:
 
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