Welp y’all it’s over Black America!! NAACP kicks out black people from voter rally for holding signs saying “reparations”.

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So essentially its okay to push voting for democrats, based on the hope that we get lucky and they finally stop being useless.


But its not okay for black people to push for reperations because its highly unlikely?


This is how negotiations work,I know democratic loyalist dont understand since black people usually dont ask for anything from Dems. But the way it works is you start high,and POSSIBLY settle for less. By asking for reperations,at least democrats now understand they need to come up with something on the offer sheet this time

I think we understand they are TRYING to negotiate but it’s a deal it’s just the idea of demanding reparations lacks substance, planning, or a concrete goal

 

[EndDomination]

I don’t care about your imaginations.

Because that’s all anybody expecting the “advancement” of “colored people thru a group with 5 outta 6 original members being cacs is doing. Just imagining and not living in reality

A lot of cockiness toward an organization that despite its neoliberal capture produced results vastly greater than you or your descendants are likely ever to come close to.

While I am not a fan of the NAACP's failures over the years, I don't see you with an organization, or any movement of any kind - so we're really on the Internet just talking, aren't we?

 

[Problematic Pat]

'I curse your bloodline'
Emotionally fueled adults behaving like children. No one's taking these people seriously. Emotional intelligence goes a long way. This is where people start looking at you crazy.

 

[Still Benefited]

I think we understand they are TRYING to negotiate but it’s a deal it’s just the idea of demanding reparations lacks substance, planning, or a concrete goal

Dont fall for that talking point. Thats just a tactic to downplay and quiet FBA,or the no tangibles no vote,#Bothsides crowd.

The truth is democrats,and even black democrats dont want an autonomous black voter. Because they know black people asking for anything for black people upsets the supposedly non racist WHITE LIBERALS/ independents. And could potentially cause some defections,or cause them to go #NoWhiteVote. Its why they dont even want to see the sign at a mixed crowd NAACP rally. And why they dont even want you to ask the Democrats about it.

Thats the real reason they want you to shut up about it. Dont let them convince you they simply want more specefics and details of a black agenda


I guarantee their response would be "Okay,but can you make it less specefic".


They dont want black people to be autonomous or specefic about black needs. And its not about Republicans,as if they could get more upset,or more racist. They want us to just not upset their white liberal voting base. And take whatever we can get on some rising tides lift all boats ideology

 

[Still Benefited]

/\ and logically speaking the Democrats arent wrong about their white liberal voting base being damn near just as racist/anti black specefic agenda and policy. Its just my job to point it out,since they think we are blind.

Strategically they are correct that we shouldnt ask for reperations,as it could likely alienate white liberals and independents who are the majority in this country.


Im just not okay with these black liberals on thecoli being completely unwilling to say that. But instead pretending its because of the republicans you cant say the word reperations outloud.

I want you to say what needs to be said which is #Bothsides

 

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The NAACP has historically fought for the advancement of Black civil and voting rights they've also been in favor of reparations dating back to the organization's creation...

However, they believe in achieving reparations by a different method. These FBA/ADOS movements and the people who represent them believe in abstaining and withholding political power such as voting (the very same thing the NAACP fought for Black Americans to have) until reparations and other demands are met is probably the reason why they removed them from the rally.

It has nothing to do with reparations but with the method and idea behind the people within these movements who are still on the verdict of whether they are legitimate, trustworthy, or honest about their intentions. These miniature movements are still under the microscope of whether or not they are legitimate in the overall advancement of Black rights.

The NAACP doesn't believe in achieving reparations or that reparations is an achievable goal.

It has everything to do with reparations. If the method is where they disagree, that's where the floor gets open for discussion. But they don't want to have that discussion, because the NAACP isn't for reparations for ADOS in its current incarnation.

 

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How did Trump win? Morning of the election NYT gave him a 2% chance. Part of the reason is Black people stayed home. That's all it takes.

Thats not entirely true tell the truth!!!

 

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There isn't, honestly.

Capitalist and neoliberal logics are the reason behind the NAACP not pushing things. There are a handful of more radical chapters, but the majority are composed of middle-class/upper-middle class educated Blacks who work in local white collar professions and are just climbing the corporate ladder; the meetings are largely just sub-fraternity meetings where the same basic liberal agenda is circulated.

I agree with your initial sentiment, they can't keep living off of the civil rights era. A handful are doing good voting rights work (particularly in Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama, and Louisiana) - and a couple (St. Louis, Minneapolis, Cleveland, Chicago for a short bloc), pushed more radical proposals between 2018 and 2021. But they do need to evolve.

Yeah I've observed the same thing as well. NAACP and the CBC are mostly older folks with time to spare. The younger folks you see there do tend to skew low skill white collar corporate climber as those tend to be the only ones with the energy to devote to these kinds of organizations. Our real movers and shakers are all too stuck in their grinds and focused on their families to bring that energy to these organizations for free, unfortunately.

My hope is that in the next 10 or so years we see a good amount of capable millennials FIRE and start to shake stuff up a bit.

 

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Unless these FBA activists join the NAACP and change it from within, they're not going to change the organisation's stance.

It would be better to make an alternative organisation.

 

[Buddy]

Wrong thread

 

[Everythingg]

A lot of cockiness

I agree. It’s pretty cocky to think that the NATIONAL organization for the advancement of black people could even have 80% (give or take) of its founding members being cac or cac adjacent men. I don’t think we’d ever see a NAAC(hinese)P or NAAJ(ewish)P having 5/6 of the founders being black

While I am not a fan of the NAACP's failures over the years

so why are you deflecting from criticism of them to “what are you personally doing?” That’s like saying one can’t criticize political parties because any individual isn’t doing more than the political party. It’s an ad hominem to deflect from criticism of the group one wants to defend. Lazy

 

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The NAACP doesn't believe in achieving reparations or that reparations is an achievable goal.

It has everything to do with reparations. If the method is where they disagree, that's where the floor gets open for discussion. But they don't want to have that discussion, because the NAACP isn't for reparations for ADOS in its current incarnation.

• Reparations would involve a national apology, rights to the cannabis industry, financial payment, social service benefits, and land grants to every descendant of an enslaved African American and Black person a descendant of those living in the United States including during American slavery until the Jim Crow era. 1965. Because slavery involved kidnapping, barbarism, and the stripping of language, culture and heritage, many Black people are unaware of their specific African heritage and which country in fact their ancestors were stolen from. The forged documentation, lack of documentation or non-existent documentation, from birth certificates to slave manifest, be it resolved that eligibility for these reparations requires the following: people that were born in the United States or naturalized citizens that have noted their Black heritage on the census, identify as Black on their birth certificate and/or have documentation of enslaved parentage in the United States, documentation of parentage residing in the United States prior to and during the Jim Crow era, and currently identify as Black American or African American. Identification of African-American heritage is both a biological and physical representation of being African-American on a daily basis.
• Land grant of 40 acres: Each family of 3 or more individuals (parents & children) shall be granted 40 acres of tillable land. No taxes to be paid on the property for 5 years from the date the land is first bequeathed by the government. If taxes are not paid on the land or land is taken for any other reason (criminal seizure), those of African descent are to be given the first right of refusal and opportunity to purchase the land. Publication of land availability must be in place for one year from the date of tax lien is issued on the property. If after one year, no person of African descent (eligible based on the same criteria listed for reparation eligibility), then the land may be sold to an individual of Non-African descent.
• Social Services: Due to the disparity in life expectancy, that the descendants of enslaved people should be eligible earlier for receipt of benefits from Social Security, access to Medicare and other old age programs including store discounts, after participating in the workforce. The age for inclusion in these benefits distributions should be lowered by the difference in the life expectancy for African Americans as set within accepted insurance mortality tables. That the county including the Congress of the Unites States is aware of these discrepancies in mortality is evidenced by movements initiated during the George Bush, Jr. administration whereas the move to privatize social security was debated, part of the justification for the move was presented as an effort to make the system "benefit" African Americans in wealth creation by having African Americans in particular and all Americans "own" their wealth rather than dying and having less or nothing to leave to their descendants.

WHEREAS, there needs to be a national reckoning, new policies and structures and systemic structural changes, the NAACP submits reparations are the first step in repairing the devastation inflicted by slavery and racial discrimination. Ultimately when the Black community as a whole is excelling the country excels.

Reparations

The NAACP reaffirms and stands in favor of financial reparations to African Americans and those of African Descent in the United States that are descendants of the slavery and the Jim Crow Era.

naacp.org

It's not that they don't want to have these discussions, they've been having these discussions for awhile now, they're not wanting to have these discussions with groups that move like they're unserious.

 

[JasoRockStar]

stop calling Black people nikkas clown

y'all don't realize how stupid you sound using that word.

I said I'm gonna stop using the word entirely in the new year. I'm a work in progress, because I just said it a few hours ago in The Coliseum. But imma get there eventually.

 

[Detroit Wave]

nikkas really got kicked out of a naacp rally for holding a sign with mlk own words on it



One look at the founding members of the naacp lets you know they were infiltrated from the jump and was never really about the advancement of black people

 

[GreenGhxst]

Massa must've been watching huh