“Wealthy Black Americans DO NOT like messing with poor Black Folks in general! Classism divides us!”

[Apollo Creed]

my family is from, The cradle of Yoruba civilization. Not some offbrand chiefdom. My fam is one of the four royal families.

I brought the Ooni to Brooklyn.



His grandfather was my great grandfather’s nephew who paid for his grandfather’s education.

That bullshyt shifter doesn’t work with me and I pull rank when other Yoruba speak on that because they know

The only reason they were willing to listen to me is because they know that it was my family’s turn to produce the next king and this was a concession for me.

Gotcha and yeah it cheapens stuff where nobody takes it serious on the outside (whether they matters is another story).

 

[NYC Rebel]

Gotcha and yeah it cheapens stuff where nobody takes it serious on the outside (whether they matters is another story).

It pisses me off. I pull rank on all these mofos.

 

[MajesticLion]

Stop talking. I’ve lived on both sides of the continent and have a lived in experience to both. Stop talking.

Look at African nations. The rich don’t give two shyts about the poor.

I’ll take Kwame Toure opinion over someone on the coli

You're not the only person with experience in anything. And you're still wrong because you refuse to widen your scope and think that somehow heaping scorn on Africa makes you better. It does not, and it will not.

Kwame Ture was my countryman. What I know of him personally, his family, his son, I will not share here. He was who he was, his legacy is what it is...and it is no betrayal to say his opinion was his opinion. It's no great betrayal to identify where his opinion(s) may have been limited. He was not infallible. I can build on what he established and go further. Like any ancestor, it is what he would want. So don't come at me with dogmatic approaches, because all you're doing is making the same mistake generations of us have done: simply retread what our immediate ancestors have done in a broken attempt to honour them, while not grasping that we are supposed to not just retrace their steps and mistakes but be better.


The rich don't care about the poor anywhere; yet even they have the basic understanding that in order to build and maintain nations you need all your people, rich/poor/citizen/crook/warlike/pacifist/farmer/artisan/whoever. All the pieces matter when you build something, even moreso when you maintain it. And for any of that to happen, you need a base from which to operate, i.e. a country that is yours. Some of us are further along the path that others, I don't disrespect anyone for where they are on the path, in front/behind/side by side...but you're not about to little-brother me when we both know where you currently stand. You can take that NYC-state-of-mind infection right back to the people who spoon fed it to you. That mindset limits you, and you belittle yourself by choosing to adopt and hold on to it.

Smarten up and stop doing this:

 

[NYC Rebel]

You're not the only person with experience in anything. And you're still wrong because you refuse to widen your scope and think that somehow heaping scorn on Africa makes you better. It does not, and it will not.

Kwame Ture was my countryman. What I know of him personally, his family, his son, I will not share here. He was who he was, his legacy is what it is...and it is no betrayal to say his opinion was his opinion. It's no great betrayal to identify where his opinion(s) may have been limited. He was not infallible. I can build on what he established and go further. Like any ancestor, it is what he would want. So don't come at me with dogmatic approaches, because all you're doing is making the same mistake generations of us have done: simply retread what our immediate ancestors have done in a broken attempt to honour them, while not grasping that we are supposed to not just retrace their steps and mistakes but be better.


The rich don't care about the poor anywhere; yet even they have the basic understanding that in order to build and maintain nations you need all your people, rich/poor/citizen/crook/warlike/pacifist/farmer/artisan/whoever. All the pieces matter when you build something, even moreso when you maintain it. And for any of that to happen, you need a base from which to operate, i.e. a country that is yours. Some of us are further along the path that others, I don't disrespect anyone for where they are on the path, in front/behind/side by side...but you're not about to little-brother me when we both know where you currently stand. You can take that NYC-state-of-mind infection right back to the people who spoon fed it to you. That mindset limits you, and you belittle yourself by choosing to adopt and hold on to it.

Smarten up and stop doing this:

You wrote all this bullshyt to make no point.

Either tell me how the class division in Africa is somehow on par to what we see amongst blacks in America or shut the fukk up. Nothing about what I said was New York centric. I grew up black and poor in America. The class divisions within Black America are nowhere near Stark as it is in Africa.

Kwame was your countryman.
Congratulations. I cosign his belief. Why don’t you counter what he stated in that video?

You forgot? Kwame grew up in New York just like me.

fukk outta here.

 

[Canada Goose]

Only read the first page, but I wonder if anybody mentioned the successful Black people not trying to get robbed by the poor Black ppl.. Seems like a safety issue for the rich folk.


I'm on SSI and don't wear expensive clothing and even I had fellow dusty NYC nikkas *try* and rob me multiple times like I have the supermax and play for the Knicks


I had some hood nikkas try me in Bryant Park of all places, that one made me low key mad because all the well paid white collar cacs that hang out in Bryant Park and you try and rob a fellow dusty breh I don't get fresh or anything like that so IDK why nikkas be thinking I have money


Have had the candy sellers who are grown Black Men REFUSE to take no for a answer try and get me to buy their candy, this was an area with a lot of foot traffic too and yet they want my money that I didn't have so much


Must be a 1000 times worse if you are a rich Black person and poor Black ppl somehow get access to you.

 

[Canada Goose]

Thread reminds me of when that idiot Irv Gotti wanted to go to the hood in Baltimore with Nas in a Bentley and eat fried chicken and Nas was like You trying to get us killed?! Mind you Nas is a street nikka that grew up in QB projects during the crack era and even he doesn't go to random ass hoods as a rich nikka

 

[MajesticLion]

You wrote all this bullshyt to make no point.

Either tell me how the class division in Africa is somehow on par to what we see amongst blacks in America or shut the fukk up. Nothing about what I said was New York centric. I grew up black and poor in America. The class divisions within Black America are nowhere near Stark as it is in Africa.

Kwame was your countryman.
Congratulations. I cosign his belief. Why don’t you counter what he stated in that video?

You forgot? Kwame grew up in New York just like me.

fukk outta here.

You really just cannot help yourself, can you.


Take your ego out of it and READ. It's a foolish comparison because the factors are simply different. Africa isn't a country, for one. Colonialism and made-up-country-spite-them-with independence games from any number of Euro countries, PLUS tribal histories PLUS class games. The US variables are not "on par" with anything. You keep babbling about growing up poor as though you're the only person capable of experiencing poverty, it doesn't give you legitimacy. It just means you grew up poor. You think you're the only person who knows NYC runnings? Man, cut it out.


I said it from the start: you not being familiar with their variables doesn't make it inherently worse. It's just different.

 

[NYC Rebel]

You really just cannot help yourself, can you.


Take your ego out of it and READ. It's a foolish comparison because the factors are simply different. Africa isn't a country, for one. Colonialism and made-up-country-spite-them-with independence games from any number of Euro countries, PLUS tribal histories PLUS class games. The US variables are not "on par" with anything. You keep babbling about growing up poor as though you're the only person capable of experiencing poverty, it doesn't give you legitimacy. It just means you grew up poor. You think you're the only person who knows NYC runnings? Man, cut it out.


I said it from the start: you not being familiar with their variables doesn't make it inherently worse. It's just different.

Everything you wrote is irrelevant. Nothing about what I wrote had anything particular or specific tied to NYC besides you seeing my username and creating it.

Nothing.

Second… You don’t have a right to tell me what I should disqualify as a comparison. It is the classism in Africa that keeps it in the state that its in. Of course it’s with the help of the west but nonetheless, I have never seen class divisions as stark within Black people as I have with the African bourgeoisie and the rest of its citizens.

I agree with what Kwame Torre stated. You tell me why you disagree because before he started the speech, I posted, he discussed how the black bourgeoisie in America hurt the civil rights movement in the US before getting into how corrupt the African bourgeoisie is in contrast

You are debating with Kwame. You believe he’s wrong to make such a comparison

 

[ViShawn]

As we should

 

[bl2k8]

If I had to guess wealthy black folks interact with other classes within the race more than any other race due to our history in this country

 

[Mook]

I’m with my rich aunt right now. The way they’re frivolous with money and the fact that I’m not supposed to be at the places they’re at is killing my mental.

 

[LiveFromLondon]

I went to a party with my girl's family some time back. We end up sitting at a table with a couple and talking about life. They have kids and found specialty grocery stores expensive.

My girl and I have no kids and I shop exclusively at specialty stores.

They have car payments they worry about. My car is literally paid off next month.

They like fried catfish. I like pan seared seabass and steelhead trout.

We understood each other, but anytime I indulged in some of my hobbies, they made it clear they couldn't afford that stuff.

Now imagine you have family who aren't super close but yall are cordial. They aren't well off but every time you show up, you have a visual

reminder to them that they shyt ain't working out. You would be surprised how often folks get back-doored by their own family because of this.


To further illustrate the point, my professional friends had bills for sure, but our conversations were about careers, taking trips, photography, etc.

For my friends in blue collar work, the conversations are quite a bit about bills and what they deal with daily. At a certain point, you gravitate to those

living similar to you. I make the kind of money where a $400 surprise bill is a minor annoyance. A $1000 bill is a grumble and eye roll. Most people statistically

are going through it when some shyt like that hits and it will affect how they act.

"I can't afford my bills."

"Sorry. Can't relate."

Nope. Avoid that type of shyt. Even if you don't say it, it can be said just by how you living.

Uppity negro

 

[zayk35]

I hate some of these comments in here. Man I make good $$$, and I live in the burbs of San Diego. But I'm a country West Texas dude at heart and make no apologies for it. I still gravitate to more "down home ppl" and so-called "hood ppl". I got some bougie azz ways, but I don't ever wanna be around them "Jack and Jill" type blacks for too long. Gimme a brew and let's talk about the game and this bbq.

 

[Tair]

The amount of African American that are well off is so low(it get even lower when you remove entertainers) it's laughable when I see aspiring bougie black people on social media advocating for a class divide.

shyt is hilarious to me. I just laugh and KIM.

 

[Jasonmask]

Uppity negro

Real because I know I have my moments but holy shiț at that post hahah ol’ I prefer caviar having àss ñigga man