We Really Need Strong, Intellectual, Healthy Black Men To Become "Cool"

Wild self

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White suburban kids buys Hip-Hop in bulk so that shyt is a lost cause. I don't know if we'll ever get it back with some sense of worth left in it.

It would take the main draws (Wayne, Jay, Drake) to drastically become pro-black and very progressive which would hit their income hard. I don't see it happening on anything other than a very small independent scale.

That Public Enemy type of Hip Hop is long dead. :snoop:


@PhonZhi look at the past BET awards when they didn't even nominate J Cole for having a dope album that went platinum. It's like they rather push negative rappers that sell less for a more sinister motive.
 

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instead of these dope fiends that has so much influence over the youth:scust:


http://www.thecoli.com/threads/lil-herb-on-his-lean-use-ive-spent-50-000-on-this-s.336586/

Being a drug addict is now "cool". Lil Wayne, Future (who has albums titled Dirty Sprite:snoop:)
2Chainz, those dirty looking Chicago drill rappers, Meek Mill, even Nicki Manaj has rapped about "poppin perc". And before yall defenders of black genocide music flood this thread talkin bout "bu bu but people were doing drugs before rap", yea you're right but has it ever been made to look cool? has it ever been glamourized? Why would you defend this? Seems like hard drug use is being pushed more to our youth now in recent memory. Remember these words: the best way to conquer a people is to affect the minds' of its youth.

What we need is for intellectual black men to become "cool". Black men who are healthy and fit physically.Black men who takes pride in being the protector of the black community. Not black men who look like zombies:

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why no @DrX :mjcry:

but i been saying this all along....hiphop is toxic and its used to destroy the masses and to give hope to kids that have a 1% chance of making it

im not a big fan of them, but guys like kendrick and j cole hopefully can make critical thinking cool...it would be a start
 
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Not malice but it is aggravating when some yokel spouting anti-intellectual babble under the guise of intellectualism is given applause unknowingly or haphazardly, someone with a smidgen of integrity must step in and speak against the nonsense.

But this is the coli I'm talking about.
Dog you're really over analyzing the whole entire situation , he making a simple observation of the climate of rap , how it tends to glamorize drug usage and it's influence it has on the youth and what he's saying it isn't far fetched from the truth regardless if it doesn't appease to your perception or not , just relax my G :pachaha:
 

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Good thread Breh. People are willfully ignorant to the widespread effects popular music has on the general public. Not only is this poison providing a dangerous, negative narrative about black people to the globe, it also teaches us to view each other as the enemy which is essentially self hate.

I vividly remember listening to I feel like dying by Wayne and saying when the hell did blacks start promoting drug use. Before they were mainly talking bout selling, almost as a cautionary tale. I'm 31, and I feel like my generation didn't mess with drugs bc we saw the results of the crack epedimic first hand. The stigma of being on drugs in the black community was always negative. Now, u have future saying he's proudly poppin percoccets. Tf???? Ross talking bout he's the neighborhood drug dealer... 200 years from now blacks will be studying these times and this music like :snoop::mindblown:



I'm looking into mentoring teens or something this fall. Black kids need to see examples of "success" beyond athletics and rap, both which are basically lottery tickets reserved for 1% of the population. The mentality has to change. The definition of success has to change. In my eyes the dude who climbed out of generational welfare legally is far more successful than a young thug, or chief keef. I can't respect people who sell out their own for a few coins. You're literally selling out the future imo.


Reminded me of this song.
"Down zone dead end streets there ain't no turning back."
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RIP the goat, Gil Scott
 

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I feel OP on the drug addict thing tho. Rapping about drugs and guns is EASY. White labels support it cause it ain't their kids that's the face of it.

Most people today are soft. Always looking for the easy way or short cuts. All that glitters isn't going tho. But it's all they see.
 

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Dog you're really over analyzing the whole entire situation , he making a simple observation of the climate of rap , how it tends to glamorize drug usage and it's influence it has on the youth and what he's saying it isn't far fetched from the truth regardless if it doesn't appease to your perception or not , just relax my G :pachaha:

So basically because you're contempt with people knowingly feeding you bullshyt and accepting it, so should everyone else.

Funny how you look at people who think outside of irrational diatribes and argue against them as emotionally perturbed, and yet that's exactly what you're fine with accepting.

To each his own.
 

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@PhonZhi look at the past BET awards when they didn't even nominate J Cole for having a dope album that went platinum. It's like they rather push negative rappers that sell less for a more sinister motive.

Wow. Are u saying that Cole , who had one of the highest selling and most acclaimed albums of the year got ZERO love? Thats our problem rite there, we REWARD ignorance. I bet somebody like Fetty Wap will receive plenty of awards next year
 

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So basically because you're contempt with people knowingly feeding you bullshyt and accepting it, so should everyone else.

Funny how you look at people who think outside of irrational diatribes and argue against them as emotionally perturbed, and yet that's exactly what you're fine with accepting.

To each his own.

Please go make your own thread and stop trying to derail this one. You are really exposing yourself in this thread. You are the ONLY one bringing negativity to this otherwise enlightning thread. We NEED threads like this. We NEED messages like this. We dont all have to agree with everything 100%, but this subject needs to be addressed. You havent made 1 contribution to this thread with YOUR POINT OF VIEW. We're all interested in hearing it now since you've been so hellbent on critiquing my point of view. Again, you dont have to agree with my overall sentiment, but you lookin hella funny if u disagree with the main point
 

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why no @DrX :mjcry:

but i been saying this all along....hiphop is toxic and its used to destroy the masses and to give hope to kids that have a 99% chance of making it

im not a big fan of them, but guys like kendrick and j cole hopefully can make critical thinking cool...it would be a start

My bad breh. I knew i was 4getn some names. You STAY spitn that real. I gotcha next time:salute:
 

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So basically because you're contempt with people knowingly feeding you bullshyt and accepting it, so should everyone else.

Funny how you look at people who think outside of irrational diatribes and argue against them as emotionally perturbed, and yet that's exactly what you're fine with accepting.

To each his own.
So you're in denial that rappers are frequently promoting the usage of lean , pills etc in a majority of their songs and it doesn't have an influence on some of the youth ? Of course those substances aren't a new thing but now a days its more blatant . I'm not saying every person from 18 - 30 is consuming those stuff but the popularity of those drugs have definitely increased over the past couple of years like for instance a lot of these drugs wasn't poppin here in NYC among people in my age bracket until a couple years ago now seeing cats sip lean on my news feed ain't far from the norm . I don't see how it's bullshyt when I'm literally witnessing this shyt first hand :patrice:

But fukk it like you said to each its own
 

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Wow. Are u saying that Cole , who had one of the highest selling and most acclaimed albums of the year got ZERO love? Thats our problem rite there, we REWARD ignorance. I bet somebody like Fetty Wap will receive plenty of awards next year


Yep. It was like he doesn't exist. They said that his music is "boring" because he don't make any turn up anthems, bit that is straight :smh:
 

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Yep. It was like he doesn't exist. They said that his music is "boring" because he don't make any turn up anthems, bit that is straight :smh:

This tells our youth that if you live your life in a destructive manner or make music promoting such, you will be rewarded. Our youth sees crime and overall ignorance as the keys to money, fast cars, fancy cribs and women. They arent being taught that intelligence and education are REALLY how success is achieved. Of course parenting is more important but this music is overwhelmingly influential. Our biggest mistake is calling it "just entertainment"
 

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This tells our youth that if you live your life in a destructive manner or make music promoting such, you will be rewarded. Our youth sees crime and overall ignorance as the keys to money, fast cars, fancy cribs and women. They arent being taught that intelligence and education are REALLY how success is achieved. Of course parenting is more important but this music is overwhelmingly influential. Our biggest mistake is calling it "just entertainment"


Bu bu but stop hating on his hustle.

But they hate on the "nerds" and regular dudes.
 
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