We need to talk about social media.

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Right. Social media was harnessed by Democrats in 2008 and 2012 to win the elections, by Obama's aides, and staffers. It was seen at the time as revolutionary and catching the Republicans off guard, who relied on the old ways. Part of that was who were the first people on social media? Mostly millennial liberal highly educated from Ivy League and then on down.

When more and more people came onto the platforms, that demo radically shifted, and was used to help elect Trump in 2016.

but to your last point, you can track a lot of trends that start around 2012 when the rise of Facebook and Instagram, and Snap Chat. I can look it up later, but you start seeing anxiety, lonliness, and a continuation of social interactions and community go downward. People lived more and more online, in increasingly insular spaces.

Not to mention the algorithms that keep people living in their own echo chambers, to an absurd level.
 

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One of the major features of social media is it's emphasis on IDENTITY

when people feel their identity is attacked, they in turn attack, which leads to the increasing polorization of people who are defining themselves more and more narrowly, via social media, leading to the kind of lack of awareness we see in 2016 and 2024, regarding what people care about.

When you begin to curate yourself as a brand, you become more and more rigid in your thinking, whatever that brand/identity is.
 

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Not to mention the algorithms that keep people living in their own echo chambers, to an absurd level.

Right, which are designed to keep the dopamine hits coming, by raising the level of extremity. which is a feature of social media's basic technology, it's basic structure.

what we were told though, and still are, is social media depends on how you use it. it's all a reflection of you, but this is not true. You are told you can use it safely and responsibly, but you really can't.

obviously you can have a instagram or whatever without becoming fried, but browsing for even an hour or two, is going to rewire parts of your brain, and change how you are viewing the world. Something like Tik Tok is even more intense.

one of my boys who never had social media until his nephews installed Tik Tok on his phone, was instantly hooked. and he finally got a new phone or something happened where it wasn't on there anymore, (note: he did not make that decision himself) and he said My neck feels so much better" because he was spending at least 3 hours a day bent over his screen.
 
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Right, which are designed to keep the dopamine hits coming, by raising the level of extremity. which is a feature of social media's basic technology, it's basic structure.

what we were told though, and still are, is social media depends on how you use it. it's all a reflection of you, but this is not true. You are told you can use it safely and responsibly, but you really can't.

obviously you can have a instagram or whatever without becoming fried, but browsing for even an hour or two, is going to rewire parts of your brain, and change how you are viewing the world. Something like Tik Tok is even more intense.

one of my boys who never had social media until his nephews installed Tik Tok on his phone, was instantly hooked. and he finally got a new phone or something happened where it wasn't on there anymore, (note: he did not make that decision himself) and he said My neck feels so much better" because he was spending at least 3 hours a day bent over his screen.
TikTok has the goat algorithm.

I just feel conversations like this are equivalent to the “we need to abolish capitalism” talk. Social media isn’t going anywhere so you have to learn how to live in a reality where it has an impact on our day to day
 

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The attention span issue coupled with the lack of trust in traditional media spaces isn’t going to end with social media.

Just like dating apps didn’t really create more lasting relationships. It just widened your access to the same crappy people you were interested in.
 

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I knew it was time to ditch social media when I found myself logging onto FB (and it could months where I’ve logged on) and I’d see posts that would just anger me. Like make my blood boil angry. Same when I logged onto Threads. It’s like their algorithm is structured to get rage out of you. And no one rages like white men who feel that the things they feel are their lot in life are being taken from them.

That’s what burns me on here when I see posters talking ill of Boomers. My parents are of that generation and they didn’t have it easy themselves. The Black Boomer v White Boomer experience ain’t the same and nikkas need to quit acting like it’s a catch all term.
 

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I knew it was time to ditch social media when I found myself logging onto FB (and it could months where I’ve logged on) and I’d see posts that would just anger me. Like make my blood boil angry. Same when I logged onto Threads. It’s like their algorithm is structured to get rage out of you. And no one rages like white men who feel that the things they feel are their lot in life are being taken from them.

That’s what burns me on here when I see posters talking ill of Boomers. My parents are of that generation and they didn’t have it easy themselves. The Black Boomer v White Boomer experience ain’t the same and nikkas need to quit acting like it’s a catch all term.

it absolutely is. Not only is it structured that way that t posts that convey rage/moral outrage get the most engagement, but then, in turn the people outraged post THEIR shyt, and then it goes back in an endless loop.
 

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I knew it was time to ditch social media when I found myself logging onto FB (and it could months where I’ve logged on) and I’d see posts that would just anger me. Like make my blood boil angry. Same when I logged onto Threads. It’s like their algorithm is structured to get rage out of you. And no one rages like white men who feel that the things they feel are their lot in life are being taken from them.

That’s what burns me on here when I see posters talking ill of Boomers. My parents are of that generation and they didn’t have it easy themselves. The Black Boomer v White Boomer experience ain’t the same and nikkas need to quit acting like it’s a catch all term.
The lashing out at boomers is weirdest thing on the internet
 

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  • On social media apps like Instagram, many fell into the trap of comparing themselves with others and feeling that they were lagging behind their peers.
  • Text messaging, by far the most popular form of digital communication, could be creating a barrier to authentic connection
  • And, perhaps unsurprisingly, some people who felt lonely also exhibited addictive personalities — in this case, to streaming videos — that kept them indoors.
 
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There's definitely more negatives than positives when it comes to social media. But one of the biggest positives is the ability to inform people on a mass scale of things and events that may not be covered by the main stream media. If we were to get rid of social media and only rely on MSM for our info that would be worse.

Let's not forget how mainstream media (not just Fox News) helped trick the American public into consenting for the Iraq war with the WMD lie.

Social media is chaotic and dumb people will always fall for dumb shyt. But it's an amazing thing that any every day American can break news story without requiring the approval of some corporate "higher ups" first.

Think of all the documented videos of police brutality that went viral on social media. Not sure all of those cases would be reported by MSM. And when it comes to the reality of what's going in in Gaza. Social media has a lot more uncensored footage of what's happening over there which is pretty horrific but it's important that people know the truth.
 

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I’m in full agreement with this. To me it’s similar to how people didn’t know the dangers of things like smoking and child labor. We won’t really understand the harm until we see the worst consequences manifested which I think is happening now.

Everything from romantic relationships to general consensus is being upended by this massive shift from this new technology. SM billionaires bank off unlimited scrolling which is somewhat akin to a crack hit in its addictive nature. Everyone young and old are having their brains fried by this shyt and it’s got the potential risk of setting humankind back decades or even centuries if the collective brain rot continues.

The good thing that does come from it is that there’s more opportunity for everyday people to speak truth to power and expose bad things in the world. In that sense, relinquishing the monopoly on info that mass media has had is a positive. It’s about us learning how to use these tools rather than abuse them.
 

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The irony of me being on a message board doesn't escape me, but I think most people would agree that this is a problem.

And not just recently, but for years now. It's been proven that you can make large groups of people believe pretty much anything if you put in enough resources. You have millions of people who are flat earthers and anti vaxxers because of Youtube videos, and this a lot of the reason we're electing the people we are. "They're eating the cats and dogs" helped get the president elected even while being completely false. Unfortunately the people in charge have terrible intentions so it'll get even worse now.


I think it's fair to say that a large part of the world has been radicalized purely because of the Internet. So what the HL take on social media? What do we do about misinformation and bigotry spreading over the Internet?

It’s a gift and curse. While I get your point and agree that lying is more easier and acceptable now than ever before, I’ve learned more from social media for FREE than I did in school.
 
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